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'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'

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Post by eyko »

stanfordkid wrote: post #497
zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #443

It depends on the company. I worked at a large international bank where we had a couple dozen project managers that would travel abroad for 2-6 weeks at a time. We had server set up in a storage closet with a huge porn cache. When the project managers came back to the US we would copy all the porn they had collected to the server, replace the porn on their laptops with new porn from the cache, then send them back abr…

Haha no one blows through $400k of cocaine in a month and survives. It's only $100 a bag (gram)! That would be 13 bags a day of coke.

They're not doing all the coke, but they're paying for it. In any case, it's still a lot. $40k would sound more believable.

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Post by anonAndOn »

tomcam wrote: post #495

In my younger, prettier days I used to work in West Los Angeles, took acting classes, etc. It is pretty clear to me that something like a majority of the people you see onscreen, both male and female, were required to perform acts on Harvey Weinsteinesque characters to get the roles they had. If you think you only have to do that once or twice, remember that you can audition every day for months or even years without…

It's not just in front of the camera. A good looking relative of mine was told that if he wanted to keep working on set for the television network he would have to regularly sleep with a female producer.

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Post by Matheus28 »

stanfordkid wrote: post #497
zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #443

It depends on the company. I worked at a large international bank where we had a couple dozen project managers that would travel abroad for 2-6 weeks at a time. We had server set up in a storage closet with a huge porn cache. When the project managers came back to the US we would copy all the porn they had collected to the server, replace the porn on their laptops with new porn from the cache, then send them back abr…

Haha no one blows through $400k of cocaine in a month and survives. It's only $100 a bag (gram)! That would be 13 bags a day of coke.

Off by an order of magnitude. 133 bags.

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Post by jandrese »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #433
jandrese wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a case study in why putting public utilities on a free market is self destructive. The company that neglects maintenance drives the costs down and wins, driving out the competition. Once they have an effective monopoly the utility collapses from a pileup of deferred maintenance and has to get bailed out by the taxpayers. On the upside some very rich people got way richer than they would have under a traditional…

sounds like poor management. Why do you think the same individuals overseeing the private utilities would do a better job of managing public utilities? Public utilities rot on the vine and get bailed out as well.

The market rewarded short term thinking that resulted in lower prices at the expense of much more expensive repairs later. Companies that were properly managed were outcompeted and got bought out by the short term thinking competitor.

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Post by bluGill »

WindyLakeReturn wrote: post #431
bluGill wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It'd be a lot tougher to be successful as an electrician or commercial airline pilot if you got there from sexual favors for your boss. That isn't true, but the reasons are different for each. For electrician getting your foot in the door is the hard part, from there on it is about on the job training. Getting the first apprentice position is one of the harder steps to success, and sexual favors can work here. Thou…

To clarify, are you disagreeing with their point, or just the examples they used? I'm able to read your comment either way, so I'm not sure.

The examples. Though I think I could find pedantic fault with any example while still agreeing with the point.

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Post by farfacy »

diob wrote: post #280
yardie wrote: post #84

> the Mafia is very much a part of the music industry, I'm not too familiar with the pop side of the music industry. I dipped my toe into the Rap/R&B side of the business building websites for new artists. There were literal gangsters in the recording studios sitting across from me drinking and smoking and they made plans for every aspect of these young girls lives: what and when they could eat, who they could see, w…

This is why I don't understand the massive cultural obsession over KPOP. It's one of the grossest abusive industries, and anyone who wants to know is able to do a simple google to find out. Those fans? They could use their collective economic impact to help those folks they "love". Instead they just let them get used and abused for their fantasy.

The first problem here is using Google to find information about Kpop rather than Naver. Many of the abusive practices in Kpop also happen in the western music industry. It doesn't make it right, but Americans and American media have a massive blind-spot when looking at foreign cultures.

These videos explain a few of these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn0gmu_m-os

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxj9rogBPi0

Kpop has become popular because it fills a niche that the western music industry doesn't cater to anymore. Some of it is actually better than the American pop scene. Right now there's no male western pop act with this Kpop idol's level of skill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEKVyfsYnuM

Comparing similar acts shows why Kpop is becoming popular.

Kpop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkwYeEMpTIM

western pop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe6D899cz3c

Every fan of a Kpop artist has a long list of how they have been mistreated and mismanaged, and sometimes these aren't even justified, the fans are being oversensitive. The fans pay for protest trucks to park outside the music company buildings with screens displaying their demands for better treatment.

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Post by hammock »

technick wrote: post #438
yardie wrote: post #84

> the Mafia is very much a part of the music industry, I'm not too familiar with the pop side of the music industry. I dipped my toe into the Rap/R&B side of the business building websites for new artists. There were literal gangsters in the recording studios sitting across from me drinking and smoking and they made plans for every aspect of these young girls lives: what and when they could eat, who they could see, w…

I used to cover (photography) the BET music awards for a newspaper between 2006-2009. I saw the same things, in dressing rooms, green rooms and after parties. Someone controlled the female artists, who they can talk with, who could take pictures of them, etc. It made my job hard and sometimes impossible.

Why is it different for female artists than male artists? Could it also have some protective aspect?
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