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Roman Polanski won an Oscar after pleading guilty to drugging and raping a 13 year old girl. Look at all these vile people applauding this villain, who couldn't accept his Oscar because he fled the country. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXnNOBj26lk In some ways I think we may have over responded (Aziz Ansari is not Harvey Weinstein), but it was shocking what behavior people were excusing from the powerful even in r…
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I've been working for 25+ years in huge, international, rich companies — at very senior (tech) levels. Plenty of travel, plenty of team building, plenty of dinners and hotels. My wife asked me a few times about the orgies the movies show, and damn it, I must have always been at the wrong parties. It is interesting how this varies by companies and organizations.
Keep in mind that there are a lot of serious, dedicated folks in the upper ranks of most businesses... and then there are other types of folks. Ex-CEO of Broadcom is one example. I worked at a startup where the well-connected CTO invited me to come to Tijuana with him and the secretary for a night of indiscretions. I've found having long hair and looking like a partier gets people to open up to you and you find out s…
I am French and worked for French, German and US companies (tech) and I never witnessed what was discussed above.
Flights in corporate jets were convenient and everyone was either chatting, or reading, or working. Multiple week travels in great hotels were pleases where people got to know, had dinner and then everyone went to their room.
Parties were parties (including after-parties), some drinking, lots of laughing and that's all.
All this from "general population" parties/travels, to top level ones.
Like I said: I must have been to the wrong parties :)
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Roman Polanski won an Oscar after pleading guilty to drugging and raping a 13 year old girl. Look at all these vile people applauding this villain, who couldn't accept his Oscar because he fled the country. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXnNOBj26lk In some ways I think we may have over responded (Aziz Ansari is not Harvey Weinstein), but it was shocking what behavior people were excusing from the powerful even in r…
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Edit: Figured it out. Hope he gets banned for it
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I worked in tech companies, this is why I was mentioning how this is different between companies and organizations.
Oh sorry I thought you were talking about roles on the entertainment industry. I also work in tech and worked in tech most of my life and even talking about this stuff in certain circles can get you fired. Not so much about the drugs thing, but for for reason the tech industry is very conservative regarding sex.
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I'm not justifying it, only saying it's not realistic IN PRACTICE. Requiring 24/7 discipline on that doesn't scale. Most men are friggen horny by nature. It's like telling everyone to diet and exercise to not be obese. It doesn't work, half the population over 30 is obese. Or to never gossip. How many will follow that? Realistic advice needs to scale and work in practice. Platitudes without that won't actually fly.
I think this attitude sounds practical and realistic to some ears but acting as though this is a reality we live in and can only cope with it rather than try to change it belies the tremendous progress that has been made. People are flexible and can be taught how to express themselves in ways that aren't harmful. The opposite attitude regards both male and female human beings as mere animal automatons and denies the…
Only to a degree. Maybe with long and expensive training, men can learn to better control their libido. But that's not likely to happen in practice. The universe doesn't run on "should's" but runs on "is's". I didn't program it.
Women need similar training for gossip, by the way. Yes, men gossip also, just as some women sexually harass, but on average women gossip more.
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Someone on HN once linked this Twitter thread and I made a point of jotting it down. https://mobile.twitter.com/sooppressed/status/12824046471609... I feel a real urge to say, for the record, that I don’t consider myself strongly “anti-cancel culture” or whatever, just that I understand the skepticism towards it and think that it’s referring to something that exists and at the very least has amped up since the end of…
This is a good thread, thanks. I'm reading through the articles now, and have concerns that the author is over editorializing at least some of them. I know for a fact Kindness Yoga is doing fine, I walk past there daily.
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> In the past, boycotts were aimed at corporations. Not buying or consuming a specific product, or protesting that company. Cancel culture is more aimed at individuals. This isn't remotely new, though. For one very visible example in our industry, Lynn Conway got fired for coming out as transgender. Similarly, Turing was canceled for being gay. Politicians have been getting canceled for marital infidelity for most of…
Turing wasn't 'canceled' for being gay. He was prosecuted by the government according to the laws of the time, by police. Cancel culture is extra-legal and does not involve the use of laws or police. Cancel culture is also distinct from politicians and infidelity because cancel culture targets non-public individuals . Of course politicians and celebrities were always subject to public opinion; the modern era now mean…
You've hit Popper's paradox right on the head. Sexism, racism, homophobia, and transphobia are examples of intolerance. Fighting those values, and criticizing/boycotting their champions, is not. This is the bright line between what the right decries as "cancel culture" of today vs the "cancel culture" of yesteryear.
> It's also always disturbing to encounter people like you...
So, you're making assertions about opinions that I hold, not based on opinions that I've stated, but upon those of "people like [me]." This is not a good-faith approach to conversation.
In other words, other "skills" can partly substitute for looks. One generally moans with their eyes closed. One thing that bugs me is that it's often said "men are animals" in that they lack self control. Yet many women wear provocative clothing at work to gain favors. Such women want it both ways: the ability to tease and taunt, but a magic lid on those when they don't want advances. They want to play with fire BUT…
> Yet many women wear provocative clothing at work to gain favors. Where are earth are you working? I've never seen anything like it in 30-odd years.
Any time you have an industry where the number of people who want to do the work vastly outstrips demand and where there are gatekeepers, you are going to get a culture of abuse. It comes in various forms: sexual or other inappropriate favors for advancement, verbal abuse, or just abusive working conditions like sweatshop hours and burnout culture.
It also helps a lot when the quality of the work performed by the person is subjective and overall success is largely dependent on the work of others (writers, musicians, tour directors, sound editors, etc.). It'd be a lot tougher to be successful as an electrician or commercial airline pilot if you got there from sexual favors for your boss.
That isn't true, but the reasons are different for each.
For electrician getting your foot in the door is the hard part, from there on it is about on the job training. Getting the first apprentice position is one of the harder steps to success, and sexual favors can work here. Though I doubt this happens much in practice - the field isn't one that people are so excited to get into that they will drop their morals to do so.
For airline pilot, demand comes and goes. You have to get a license first (though you can probably pay your instructor in bed, that just gets training I doubt any instructor/examiner will let you buy the license before you are qualified - if anything they will be tougher one you so you have to "buy" another lesson). Once you are qualified, you can use favors to get a job when jobs are scare and this will put you ahead in seniority later when the others finally get a job; or you can use favor to keep a job - but again: seniority means they may not even have an option to keep you. Note that the above is or - because of constant management change odds are against your ability to use this more than once at a real airline without getting caught and then their HR will ensure you are out.
In other words, other "skills" can partly substitute for looks. One generally moans with their eyes closed. One thing that bugs me is that it's often said "men are animals" in that they lack self control. Yet many women wear provocative clothing at work to gain favors. Such women want it both ways: the ability to tease and taunt, but a magic lid on those when they don't want advances. They want to play with fire BUT…
> Yet many women wear provocative clothing at work to gain favors. Where are earth are you working? I've never seen anything like it in 30-odd years.