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'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'
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#82Quote: "Mafia 'owned' pop stars"
Mafia owned Elvis. If the king didn't had a chance what chance have the pop stars? Get serious, where is lust, regardless of industry, there is Mafia, organized or not.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you misunderstand the phrase; it's about society as a whole, not individual people. Things are implicitly about sex and power on an ingrained level, and asexual people are just screwed (SCNR) even more by this.
I disagree with that. Not everything is implicitly about sex, maybe everything is about power (strong maybe) but sex is not a precursor to that. That said, you are probably right that the things that are about sex and power end up disadvantaging the asexuals.
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#84> the Mafia is very much a part of the music industry,
I'm not too familiar with the pop side of the music industry. I dipped my toe into the Rap/R&B side of the business building websites for new artists. There were literal gangsters in the recording studios sitting across from me drinking and smoking and they made plans for every aspect of these young girls lives: what and when they could eat, who they could see, where they could travel. They were given an allowance. Sexual favours weren't requested or performed in front of me but it was clear these girls were under control. And by girls I mean 15,16,17.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thousands of employees devote already 1/3 of their life doing a work they despise just so they can avoid starving. Getting literally fucked to save 40 years of bad work doesn't sound too bad.
It's a race to the bottom though. Once one person does it, everyone else has to do it too, just so they don't fall behind. In the end you are back to where you started, except you have to sell yourself in addition.
>It's a race to the bottom though. Once one person does it, everyone else has to do it too, just so they don't fall behind.
See also: growth hacking which is rampant in the tech startup industry
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you'd rather keep things as they were? Make this a permanent barrier to entry?
It's a barrier or an open door, depending on what you are willing to do.
Either way it usually has nothing to do with the job. Should we really be accepting of managers hiring/promoting people based on how likely they are to fuck them?
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Came here to post this, glad I didn't and forget we can't post about asexuality here. As an asexual person, not only are we not respected whatsoever here, but in my experienced, also personally attacked. That your comment about erasure is getting this many down votes is unfortunately absolutely common for HN, and I'm incredibly disappointed in that. Before people jump in who might not be asexual to try to defend this…
It's ok. If you even slightly hint at being self righteous or virtuous you will get downvoted. I saw it coming the second I said 'asexual people exist', which is just a declarative statement of fact and nothing more.
They got downvotes because it's not relevant to the point of the saying.
Which this little flap just underlined, because asexuality is defined as a lack of interest in sex, once again demonstrating that everything is indeed about sex (or lack thereof).
Re: 'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'
#89It makes perfect sense. Music industry is a economics of superstars. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1803469 Very few stars get huge profits and after that it's long slim tail. Talent or high work ethic is not enough for success, "getting discovered" aka someone likes you and invests the initial money and effort is another factor. If personal effort is not enough and the artist has nothing else, selling your ass for an…
> I mean, if Jeff Besos would come to you and say: I invest into your startup $100M if I can fuck you into the ass tree times, very high percentage of HN crowd would immediately say yes.
Ew. This comment is atrocious and shows your privilege. It sounds like you haven't listened to many stories of women experiencing systemic abuse, misogyny and humiliation (and who experience most of this abuse in the music industry). It scares me that people say this stuff publicly.
Comparing Bezos 'fucking you in the ass three times to gain an advantage' with the constant threat women face from powerful men leaves me feeling disgusted
Re: 'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'
#90It makes perfect sense. Music industry is a economics of superstars. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1803469 Very few stars get huge profits and after that it's long slim tail. Talent or high work ethic is not enough for success, "getting discovered" aka someone likes you and invests the initial money and effort is another factor. If personal effort is not enough and the artist has nothing else, selling your ass for an…
Thousands of employees devote already 1/3 of their life doing a work they despise just so they can avoid starving. Getting literally fucked to save 40 years of bad work doesn't sound too bad.
Except that most sexual assault victims just get literally fucked and don't save 40 years of bad work.
People generally perceive winner-take-all economies like the music industry through this same fallacious lens: they assume that the star experience is the norm and ignore the long tail. The music industry is a high-profile but economically tiny; it is not representative of the wider economy, and the star experience within it is even more unrepresentative.
It's comments like this which remind me that HN has minuscule female participation. Because so many more women have experience with sexual assault than men, and because people who have experienced sexual assault would downvote this comment into oblivion, the fact that it survives is a testament to how screwed up HN demographics are.