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'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'

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Re: 'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'

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I’m reminded of an axiom, which I will paraphrase: Everything is about sex. Except sex, which is about power.

I've always thought this phrase is a bit silly. It completely erases the existence of asexual people and their goals and ambitions.

I think you misunderstand the phrase; it's about society as a whole, not individual people. Things are implicitly about sex and power on an ingrained level, and asexual people are just screwed (SCNR) even more by this.

Re: 'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'

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I’m reminded of an axiom, which I will paraphrase: Everything is about sex. Except sex, which is about power.

I've always thought this phrase is a bit silly. It completely erases the existence of asexual people and their goals and ambitions.

Came here to post this, glad I didn't and forget we can't post about asexuality here.

As an asexual person, not only are we not respected whatsoever here, but in my experienced, also personally attacked.

That your comment about erasure is getting this many down votes is unfortunately absolutely common for HN, and I'm incredibly disappointed in that.

Before people jump in who might not be asexual to try to defend this - it's such a problem I have actually shared emails with an admin who actually seem genuinely concerned about the problem. Just the truth.

I'm not sure why HN has it in for asexuals, but God damn guys, can't you ease up on us?

Re: 'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'

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It makes perfect sense. Music industry is a economics of superstars. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1803469 Very few stars get huge profits and after that it's long slim tail. Talent or high work ethic is not enough for success, "getting discovered" aka someone likes you and invests the initial money and effort is another factor. If personal effort is not enough and the artist has nothing else, selling your ass for an…

Thousands of employees devote already 1/3 of their life doing a work they despise just so they can avoid starving. Getting literally fucked to save 40 years of bad work doesn't sound too bad.

A lot of "favours" are also about avoiding downsides.

With Weinstein or hypothetical influential Valley figure, the choice might be between literally or metaphorically being fucked.

Re: 'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'

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what interests me is: how do people maintain their integrity in such a foul environment? I mean if you can't look yourself in the mirror then how do you keep on creating anything?

Why do you think so many celebs face drug addiction? They're being exploited, often have to compromise their morals, and drugs are a coping mechanism.

Institutions of power are masters of controlling people. It's almost scientific.

Re: 'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if Jeff Besos would come to you and say: I invest into your startup $100M if I can fuck you into the ass tree times, very high percentage of HN crowd would immediately say yes. What's the name for this kind of arguments? Also, why specifically Bezos? Why not the billionaire next door? Also, why only the HN crowd? Wouldn't a lot of people too? Do you have a beef with the HN crowd or Bezos?

I perceive your parent comment to be straightforward and not sinister in the least. Why not Bezos (the billionaire who most easily comes to mind), why not HN (the website we're on )? Seriously, what's with the weird angry insinuating questions.

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Re: 'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'

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It makes perfect sense. Music industry is a economics of superstars. https://www.jstor.org/stable/1803469 Very few stars get huge profits and after that it's long slim tail. Talent or high work ethic is not enough for success, "getting discovered" aka someone likes you and invests the initial money and effort is another factor. If personal effort is not enough and the artist has nothing else, selling your ass for an…

I disagree about your comment with Jeff bezos. I don't believe anyone on the hn community would do this.

Re: 'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'

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HN: Legalize prostitution, it is normal work. Also HN: Sleeping your way to the top? THE HORROR. I know quite a few people who did the latter, they don't seem to regret it at all.

It's almost as HN is filled with actual real human beings with different opinions and emotions, some of them think legalizing prostitution should be done and some of them think using your body for industry favors is bad.

Re: 'Sexual favours were the norm in music industry'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

An important topic here is that shame is also a construct, and it is a collective construct. Certain things are shameful in one culture, not in another. This isn’t to say that we don’t have a gut feeling when something feels wrong. We have an inner sense of boundaries which eg. can be damaged by trauma and deeply affects our ability to connect and such. But when it comes to adult relationships there is a wide spectru…

Exactly. Insisting on how shameful and/ or traumatic some experiences must feel is, deep down, incredibly puritanic.

Which isn’t always a bad thing. E.g. society can deem certain experiences shameful (incest) for puritanical reasons if it decides to do so.
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