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Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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Post by amelius »

qchris wrote: post #17
ed25519FUUU wrote: post #4

How does the onboard battery charging IC work? Can I hook up a 3s li-ion battery and charge it via the 12v power input? Does the battery kick on if the main PSU is interrupted?

I think that this could be an underlooked, but absolutely killer feature for this board. Built-in support for high-capacity li-ion batteries that automatically kick-in for a battery backup would be awesome for homemade NAS set-ups, not to mention a whole host of robotics-y or home automation projects.

Yeah, but you'll have to power your modem too.

Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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Post by stambros »

Funes- wrote: post #8
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The target market for the Raspberry Pi foundation is education. They get cheap boards into the hands of people everywhere and provide plenty of documentation to get them started. Raspberry Pi has the biggest community, and therefore it’s the best choice for anyone looking to get started. If you’re the type of person who needs very specific features like AES acceleration, then you don’t want to invest in a board aimed…

In my opinion, Raspberry Pi's main problem has to do with using SD cards, which are prone to errors and corruption. It's a kind of media storage that works best if it operates more statically--for instance, you read some photos on your camera, remove a few, take some new ones... and that's it for the day. They are not intended to undergo a large number of read/write cycles on a regular basis, and that's what the Rasp…

Lost 2 SD cards that way. It's a relic that should be phased out in favor of NVME or SATA.

Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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Post by fn1 »

chabes wrote: post #14
Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem of reliance on an SD card is somewhat less nowadays with the Raspberry Pi 4. Its faster USB3 support allows you to just use the SD card for the /boot partition to boot the system, while you can maintain everything else (root, userspace) on an attached USB drive that can handle heavy reading and writing.

You can boot entirely from USB on the Pi 4s now. Don’t even need the microSD for the boot partition.

Booting from USB was possible for the RPI3 as well.

Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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Post by CameronNemo »

stambros wrote: post #22
Funes- wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my opinion, Raspberry Pi's main problem has to do with using SD cards, which are prone to errors and corruption. It's a kind of media storage that works best if it operates more statically--for instance, you read some photos on your camera, remove a few, take some new ones... and that's it for the day. They are not intended to undergo a large number of read/write cycles on a regular basis, and that's what the Rasp…

Lost 2 SD cards that way. It's a relic that should be phased out in favor of NVME or SATA.

What SD cards did you use?

I have seen high endurance ones available.

Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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Post by FlyingSnake »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #7
Funes- wrote: post #6

Coupled with that 10-inch e-ink panel that they mention will be available when it launches, this could make for a great machine for working (reading, writing, coding...). I hope the price is not very steep.

I worry more about the price of a 10 inch e-ink panel.

Cost of Pine64 SBC: $64

Cost of e-Ink panel: $50

Money paid to patent owner: $300

Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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Post by CameronNemo »

ilikeorangutans wrote: post #13
api wrote: post #2

There's quite a few third party boards that are far better than the Raspberry Pi 4. I found the Rpi4 quite disappointing, especially the half-supported GPU and the lack of AES/crypto extensions in the ARM64 chip. Only ARM64 chip I've ever seen that lacks those.

What boards would you consider "better" and for what reasons (gpu and crypto extensions, or are there other factors)? I run a few raspberry pis and always looking for new/better toys.

I like rk3399 boards, unless you need deep suspend or video out through the USB type c port.

Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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Post by [deleted] »

cdumler wrote: post #5
api wrote: post #2

There's quite a few third party boards that are far better than the Raspberry Pi 4. I found the Rpi4 quite disappointing, especially the half-supported GPU and the lack of AES/crypto extensions in the ARM64 chip. Only ARM64 chip I've ever seen that lacks those.

The issue has never been that the Raspberry PI hardware is amazing or fully utilized. The issue is that is that what is supported is supported well in software. You can put Raspian on it and expect consistent behavior in software, drivers, video, audio, etc. It will all just work in typical ways.

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Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #3
api wrote: post #2

There's quite a few third party boards that are far better than the Raspberry Pi 4. I found the Rpi4 quite disappointing, especially the half-supported GPU and the lack of AES/crypto extensions in the ARM64 chip. Only ARM64 chip I've ever seen that lacks those.

The target market for the Raspberry Pi foundation is education. They get cheap boards into the hands of people everywhere and provide plenty of documentation to get them started. Raspberry Pi has the biggest community, and therefore it’s the best choice for anyone looking to get started. If you’re the type of person who needs very specific features like AES acceleration, then you don’t want to invest in a board aimed…

Cortex-M4s have an optional AES core and hardware RNG. Pretty sad for a higher grade chip to be missing that. It doesn't consume much die space.

Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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Post by timemachine »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #4

How does the onboard battery charging IC work? Can I hook up a 3s li-ion battery and charge it via the 12v power input? Does the battery kick on if the main PSU is interrupted?

This feature caught my attention too; can’t wait till I can get my hands on a unit for testing.

Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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Post by heavyset_go »

api wrote: post #2

There's quite a few third party boards that are far better than the Raspberry Pi 4. I found the Rpi4 quite disappointing, especially the half-supported GPU and the lack of AES/crypto extensions in the ARM64 chip. Only ARM64 chip I've ever seen that lacks those.

I'm unaware of ARM SBCs that have as much support from their vendors as the Raspberry Pi models do, though.
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