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Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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There's quite a few third party boards that are far better than the Raspberry Pi 4. I found the Rpi4 quite disappointing, especially the half-supported GPU and the lack of AES/crypto extensions in the ARM64 chip. Only ARM64 chip I've ever seen that lacks those.

Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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There's quite a few third party boards that are far better than the Raspberry Pi 4. I found the Rpi4 quite disappointing, especially the half-supported GPU and the lack of AES/crypto extensions in the ARM64 chip. Only ARM64 chip I've ever seen that lacks those.

The target market for the Raspberry Pi foundation is education. They get cheap boards into the hands of people everywhere and provide plenty of documentation to get them started.

Raspberry Pi has the biggest community, and therefore it’s the best choice for anyone looking to get started.

If you’re the type of person who needs very specific features like AES acceleration, then you don’t want to invest in a board aimed at education markets anyway.

The Raspberry Pi 4 is actually very performant due to the Cortex-A72 cores, which are not common on other SBCs at low price points. It’s actually an incredible performance value in the space, even if it doesn’t fit everyone’s exact situational requirements.

Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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There's quite a few third party boards that are far better than the Raspberry Pi 4. I found the Rpi4 quite disappointing, especially the half-supported GPU and the lack of AES/crypto extensions in the ARM64 chip. Only ARM64 chip I've ever seen that lacks those.

The issue has never been that the Raspberry PI hardware is amazing or fully utilized. The issue is that is that what is supported is supported well in software. You can put Raspian on it and expect consistent behavior in software, drivers, video, audio, etc. It will all just work in typical ways.

Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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Coupled with that 10-inch e-ink panel that they mention will be available when it launches, this could make for a great machine for working (reading, writing, coding...). I hope the price is not very steep.

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Coupled with that 10-inch e-ink panel that they mention will be available when it launches, this could make for a great machine for working (reading, writing, coding...). I hope the price is not very steep.

I worry more about the price of a 10 inch e-ink panel.

Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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There's quite a few third party boards that are far better than the Raspberry Pi 4. I found the Rpi4 quite disappointing, especially the half-supported GPU and the lack of AES/crypto extensions in the ARM64 chip. Only ARM64 chip I've ever seen that lacks those.

The target market for the Raspberry Pi foundation is education. They get cheap boards into the hands of people everywhere and provide plenty of documentation to get them started. Raspberry Pi has the biggest community, and therefore it’s the best choice for anyone looking to get started. If you’re the type of person who needs very specific features like AES acceleration, then you don’t want to invest in a board aimed…

In my opinion, Raspberry Pi's main problem has to do with using SD cards, which are prone to errors and corruption. It's a kind of media storage that works best if it operates more statically--for instance, you read some photos on your camera, remove a few, take some new ones... and that's it for the day. They are not intended to undergo a large number of read/write cycles on a regular basis, and that's what the Raspberry Pi makes them do, using them to run its OS.

Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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Coupled with that 10-inch e-ink panel that they mention will be available when it launches, this could make for a great machine for working (reading, writing, coding...). I hope the price is not very steep.

I worry more about the price of a 10 inch e-ink panel.

I was referring to the sum of both--to the price of that particular machine (SBC + e-ink panel) I just described.

Re: Pine64 Unveils Quartz64 SBC

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There's quite a few third party boards that are far better than the Raspberry Pi 4. I found the Rpi4 quite disappointing, especially the half-supported GPU and the lack of AES/crypto extensions in the ARM64 chip. Only ARM64 chip I've ever seen that lacks those.

The target market for the Raspberry Pi foundation is education. They get cheap boards into the hands of people everywhere and provide plenty of documentation to get them started. Raspberry Pi has the biggest community, and therefore it’s the best choice for anyone looking to get started. If you’re the type of person who needs very specific features like AES acceleration, then you don’t want to invest in a board aimed…

> The target market for the Raspberry Pi foundation is education.

I'd bet 80% of the sales are to hobbyists/companies.

It's a weird setup. Have a look at this page: https://www.raspberrypi.org/about/meet-the-team/

There are two groups of people:

* Raspberry Pi Foundation (100+)

* Raspberry Pi Trading (27)

My understanding: The people in "Raspberry Pi Trading" do the hardware/software/documentation/product management/sales work, plus publish the monthly MagPi magazine. That's remarkably few people for this, btw. The profit of this operation goes to support the foundation, per the wikipedia page. There sure seems to be a lot of fluff there.

I think it would be wise to change that balance (100+ vs 27 full times) a little bit more in advantage of Raspberry Pi Trading part.

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