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Are we convinced growing these crops are good for the environment? Not to mention how terrible plant-based “meats” are for your health.
What do you think the meat machines / cows are fed with? Even more of the same crops but with a high percentage of loss of calories since they only transform a small part of it into edible meat
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I am not hiding. Now if you have a problem with me, I'd be happy to resolve that different in person.
You really don't have to defend your masculinity to me. I promise that I, or anyone else, won't think anything less of you if you'll replace steak with quinoa burger from time to time. It will be good for you and the environment! Have a good one.
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The original claim was that meat has a good track record. Citation needed. NIH is brimming with publications to the contrary
Sure. Humans have been eating meat for tens of thousands of years. That's a track record. The idea that something that's been consumed by humans since there have been himself having a better track record than something that historically hasn't isn't even controversial. Your turn. Basically all cardiovascular diseases are caused by meat, right? I've spent most of my life as a vegetation but dishonest histrionics like…
Its not that complicated, I fail to see how this qualifies as histrionics.
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Fair point. I do feel the responsibility is on the shoulders of those making claims of the dangers of meat alternatives though. Its easy to paint it as frankenfood, but if you look at the ingredients they are boringly normal
This is actually a pretty simple burden of proof question. The burden of proof is on whoever wishes to persuade the other. As in any other case, to persuade another person is to assert a claim. It doesn’t matter that you already have done the requisite learning to understand what you’re certain is the baseline set of facts. What matters is you want to change someone else’s beliefs. As an example: It would be preposte…
From an athletic or 'health' perspective, these plant-based meat substitutes have way too high fat content. You can get 93+% lean beef with 3-4 grams of fat per 20~ grams of protein, or even higher with game meat. None of the plant proteins appeal to a healthy eater, with the high coconut/canola/sunflower oil content.
I see it as them trying to compete with meat. Impossible has higher cholesterol content than beef right now, but I have a feeling this will change as the industry matures.
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Sure. Humans have been eating meat for tens of thousands of years. That's a track record. The idea that something that's been consumed by humans since there have been himself having a better track record than something that historically hasn't isn't even controversial. Your turn. Basically all cardiovascular diseases are caused by meat, right? I've spent most of my life as a vegetation but dishonest histrionics like…
It's about the amount of meat and dairy we ate... Next to nothing compared to today. Today's rates of cardiovascular diseases don't exist in mostly plant eating cohorts, nor do they in other largely plant based apes. Its not that complicated, I fail to see how this qualifies as histrionics.
Again, citation needed.
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I think the point is that we have tried making meat cheap and it created a lot of problems. Until we fix those problems the grandparent comments strategy seems sound.
How is that strategy sound in the least? What's your plan to convert billions of people to stop eating meat? The objective here isn't to convert a few people on hacker news, it's to convert billions. "Hey dummies, just eat plants! They were here the whole time!" isn't gonna happen.
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Most of the EU. It’s only the US and Australia that are so backward in environmental issues among western democracies.
I'm an EU citizen. I don't know that I'm paying taxes for e.g. the e-waste produced by electronic devices. Can you point to relevant information please?
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But cheap meat isn’t that healthy to start with, so we have quite a low bar to pass.
Why cheap meat isn't healthy? Are cheap vegetables healthy?