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Re: MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies

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Bitcoin was all over the news a decade ago. The reason it's not popular is that the early narrative wasn't "too the moon!" The narrative was that Bitcoin was the currency of the future and that we'd all be using Bitcoin for transactions. Anyone who actually used Bitcoin at the time could see how there was no chance of it taking off as a payment mechanism. That's still true today, especially with $8+ transaction fees.…

Given what you're commenting all over this post, it's pretty clear you don't follow developments in the cryptocurrency space much. Bitcoin is stale, there's no development or innovation happening. It has become a store of value only. The only possible solution that could change that is the Lightning network or other Layer 2 protocols. There are plenty of other coins however that are doing super exciting innovation. B…

all that innovation is cool and all, but it seems a bit egotistical to be upset that people haven't heard of your awesome cool thing when a vast vast majority of people haven't heard about or use your thing

Re: MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies

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Bitcoin was all over the news a decade ago. The reason it's not popular is that the early narrative wasn't "too the moon!" The narrative was that Bitcoin was the currency of the future and that we'd all be using Bitcoin for transactions. Anyone who actually used Bitcoin at the time could see how there was no chance of it taking off as a payment mechanism. That's still true today, especially with $8+ transaction fees.…

Given what you're commenting all over this post, it's pretty clear you don't follow developments in the cryptocurrency space much. Bitcoin is stale, there's no development or innovation happening. It has become a store of value only. The only possible solution that could change that is the Lightning network or other Layer 2 protocols. There are plenty of other coins however that are doing super exciting innovation. B…

Can I ask you something: where do you get proper info about what's happening on crypto? Is there some honest party reporting it? Because all I've seen is "this is no financial advice" financial advice disguised as news or blogging, and the bitcoin forum. I'm saying that because I really feel only a few people are really on the loop. Thanks for any input

Re: MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies

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Mining participation does not change the issuance of new bitcoin. If there was 1 miner in the entire world the issuance would be the same. Please educate yourself more about crypto in general, understanding the core concepts only takes a few minutes of research.

When I was mining Bitcoin when it was possible, maybe you were in diapers. Your response is so typical: "you don't get it." In fact, I do get it, and you don't. Educate yourself, because exposing your ignorance publicly!

While I agree with your sentiment, saying „maybe you were in diapers“ makes your argument look weak.

Re: MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies

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Yeah but that disincentivizes investments.

Another way of looking at it: that incentivizes better investments.

Not really. If you can earn risk free appreciation on a currency the smart thing to do is not spend it. This incentivizes hoarding money, not making smarter investments.

Re: MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies

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So you pay $40k+ for bitcoin just so you can frame some numbers and letters and say you paid $40k+ for those numbers and letters? Gold's value comes from the fact that it doesn't dull or dim over time, and has many uses in the electronics and jewelry industries. If you have the resources to get gold and own it, that is a clear sign of status and value. Can't say the same with crypto for any counts. All of crypto's va…

No, Gold value comes from the fact that we all agreed that it should have a value, and it's scarce. Same for Bitcoin. And yes you can parade the fact that you own a bitcoin address, this is after all probably the only reason most people know about Craig S. Wright > There is no convenience, no government backing, and no trust convenience is in stablecoins, government backing is in CBDC, trust is anchored at the founda…

A little bit of value. But as a decentralized utopian panacea? Nope. If I was given the choice between a Bitcoin and a bar of gold, I'd definitely take the bar of gold.

Re: MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies

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These stories usually spur more enthusiasm for buying cryptocurrency, but ironically those buyers aren’t interested in spending cryptocurrency using their MasterCard. They’re hoping other people will buy cryptocurrency from these announcements, driving the price up. Or, more likely, they’re just hoping other people will buy cryptocurrency and not use it in these spending systems. Spending cryptocurrency would result…

What's the point of an unstable, volatile, frantically manipulated currency that is susceptible to social media pump and dump schemes (Elon + Doge)? Currency and its exchange rate needs to be relatively stable for the world to put trust into it. Saying that BTC is stable, but the rest of the world's fiat currency is fluctuating makes no sense. US dollar provides stability and security, I feel confident that a cappucc…

You mean stable currency that is supported by 24$ trillion of national debt?

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These stories usually spur more enthusiasm for buying cryptocurrency, but ironically those buyers aren’t interested in spending cryptocurrency using their MasterCard. They’re hoping other people will buy cryptocurrency from these announcements, driving the price up. Or, more likely, they’re just hoping other people will buy cryptocurrency and not use it in these spending systems. Spending cryptocurrency would result…

What's the point of an unstable, volatile, frantically manipulated currency that is susceptible to social media pump and dump schemes (Elon + Doge)? Currency and its exchange rate needs to be relatively stable for the world to put trust into it. Saying that BTC is stable, but the rest of the world's fiat currency is fluctuating makes no sense. US dollar provides stability and security, I feel confident that a cappucc…

Typical worldview of a frog in a well.

Re: MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies

#729
post #326

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We aren’t talking about assets and what you’ve just said is the reason we have controlled inflation. Currency isn’t supposed to incentivize hoarding it, quite the opposite in fact.

Not everyone agrees with that view. I for one would rather people spent their hard-earned money in a smart, slow and well-thought way than feel compelled by inflation to do so fast and lose.

People should spend or invest thoughtfully, but they should spend or invest - if people are encouraged to hoard a pile of wealth so they can live off the labour of others while contributing nothing themselves, that's bad for society. So central banks tend to aim for low but nonzero inflation (e.g. the Fed's 2% target).

Re: MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies

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I'm not sure what you mean by "lost 250% of its value" - that seems impossible, so I guess something has been lost in translation! Can you clarify?

There are loads of cases of hyper-inflation, which means that the currency's real-world value decreases. Here's the worst I've ever heard of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_Zimbabwe Yes, you read that right: "However, Zimbabwe's peak month of inflation is estimated at 79.6 billion percent month-on-month, 89.7 sextillion percent year-on-year in mid-November 2008." I recall interviews with government e…

For mere hyper-inflation, it seems there's a cap of 100% value loss. It's something else together to lose more value than there was in the first place.
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