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CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Re: CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

garretraziel wrote: post #131
mvolfik wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't always have to be like this though. Look at Factorio – the devs are happy (looking from the outside, but they are always very enthusiastic about how they love the game), the community loves it (there are infinite remarks of people who sunk thousands of hours into this game, all for a single payment of 25 €), and they don't seem to have any financial issues either. I have not seen many disappointed people a…

When it comes to Factorio, I've seen some backslash/hate from gamers for dev's decision on never putting Factorio on sale.

Gamers are such entitled brats. If we go by what the average NES game cost in the 80s, Factorio should be at least $120, probably a lot more due to having significantly more content and replay value.

And I didn't even like Factorio. I'm just sick gamer-brand bullshit.

Re: CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

theshrike79 wrote: post #82
MaximumYComb wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they released a $50 DLC that just adds a bunch of super difficult achievements I'd pick that up just to support them. I've sunk 4 figures of hours into that game and I regret not having any of my goals left to achieve. I've done speedrunning, mega factories, difficult map settings, etc.

Just figured out that I can start a custom map and turn off the biters. Been playing into the wee mornings for a week now. Got into the logic system heavily. I'm optimising production in my sleep now. Send help. Can't stop.

You joke, but I think that this is why "addicting" is never a quality you want in a game, even one like Factorio where it is a product of good-intention game design and isn't just rent-seeking. Addiction is destructive.

Re: CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Post by bloopernova »

theshrike79 wrote: post #82
MaximumYComb wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they released a $50 DLC that just adds a bunch of super difficult achievements I'd pick that up just to support them. I've sunk 4 figures of hours into that game and I regret not having any of my goals left to achieve. I've done speedrunning, mega factories, difficult map settings, etc.

Just figured out that I can start a custom map and turn off the biters. Been playing into the wee mornings for a week now. Got into the logic system heavily. I'm optimising production in my sleep now. Send help. Can't stop.

Off topic: what do you use logic for? I am at a loss on how to use it effectively.

Re: CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Post by everdrive »

Netcob wrote: post #52

Reading the replies there tells me I did the right thing when I decided against a career in game development over a decade ago. It looks like a constant war between developers and gamers now. Developers are investing a lot of time into making their games literally addictive in the worst way possible, and not even remotely by making it fun - it's all about overpriced DLC, gambling and weird reward systems. Which has r…

Gaming is mainstream now. What this means practically is that there are a bunch of big players pushing junk, and a smaller portion making amazing, wonderful games. This is the problem of the mainstream. Video games are no longer a niche interest, so there is a lot of money.

Anyhow, there are more amazing games available now than any other time in history. (especially since all the old games are still available for the most part) The problem is that per capita, modern games are quite bad. In raw numbers, though, there are more amazing games out there than ever before. Much like the rest of modern media, the challenge is in filtering out the junk. There's more choice and abundance, and much of it is of poor quality.

Re: CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Post by kdtsh »

agilob wrote: post #153

Does this message sound very artificial, fake to anyone? I haven't seen many ransom messages, a few have been published, but this one and the way it's screenshotted just seems so fake to me

Whether it sounds fake or not, there is next to zero chance it is fake. Imagine the consequences if it wasn’t.

Re: CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Post by dogma1138 »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #93
dvdkon wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The source code for Watch Dogs: Legion leaked just a few months back.

Yes, it was very interesting to see how much all these AAA games rely on scripting and DSL.

You don't need a leak to see that, this is how all game engines are built and that's been the case for quite a long time, you have some scripting language that is then compiled by the game engine quite often it just turns your scripts into C++ code and then your compiler takes over.

You can see this with UnrealScript for example.

It's pretty clear why this is done, most game designers aren't experienced programmers and there is a very large push to simplify game development in both the code that needs to be written and allowing a lot of development to be done with visual editors.

If you want to add a new shader it's much easier to develop a shader generator and expose your internal engine functionality via DSL or a UI elements than teach everyone on the dev team how to write shaders, especially since your engine might need to support multiple platforms, so you have a compiler that can target different hardware/software platforms.

Same goes for every other aspect of game development like game mechanics, AI and physics.

So you end up having a small core team of engine and tool programmers and then 100's of game designers that can then work on a higher level.

And it's not that games are unique, this is how computer programming always worked, the core of C e.g. something like printf has to be written in assembly, same goes for your core C compiler (yes now you can technically write a compiler for C in any language including C but when you start from scratch you need to bootstrap it with something).

In fact this is how the web itself works, we have a core "engine" - the browser and DSL - JavaScript and HTML.

Re: CD Projekt Red has been subject to a cyber attack and ransom demand

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Post by agilob »

kdtsh wrote: post #158
agilob wrote: post #153

Does this message sound very artificial, fake to anyone? I haven't seen many ransom messages, a few have been published, but this one and the way it's screenshotted just seems so fake to me

Whether it sounds fake or not, there is next to zero chance it is fake. Imagine the consequences if it wasn’t.

Well, their stocks went down today, Elon Musk manipulated TSLA stocks too for personal gain, he faced consequences, but looks like it was worth it in the long run.
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