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The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Re: The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Post by userbinator »

nexthash wrote: post #76
calvinmorrison wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're misinformed. People use hollow points to reduce over-penetration that occurs with a FMJ bullet

Do you really think the type of bullet matters? A bullet is a projectile whose sole purpose is to penetrate the human body at subsonic or supersonic speeds. The original commenter was advocating for carrying and using weapons that fire these bullets against innocent people. To me that's just depravity.

A weapon used in self-defense is by definition against someone who is not innocent. The original comment was suggesting defense, not offense.

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Post by tzs »

f430 wrote: post #9

Interesting how no mainstream media is reporting this. They sure were quick to label BLM rioters burning down Asian businesses as "peaceful protestors".

Within the last few months, it's been on ABC News, CNN, the Financial Times, PBS, USA Today, VOA, The Los Angeles Times, and many others.

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Post by throwawaygulf »

nexthash wrote: post #77
jandrewrogers wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hollow points are for the safety of innocent bystanders by limiting penetration after they hit something solid. This is widely known and understood.

And what exactly are they supposed to penetrate?

Violent animals.

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Post by dcolkitt »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #99
dcolkitt wrote: post #6

> Many blame the Trump administration for inciting this violence; Trump and numerous other members of his White House staff embraced racist and xenophobic anti-Asian rhetoric... > NYPD date showed that there has been a 1,900 percent increase anti-Asian hate crimes in New York City in the past year... An 84-year-old Thai American man, Vicha Ratanapakdee, was killed in an unprovoked attack in San Francisco; a 64-year-o…

Perpetrators of racist attacks tend not to be accurate representations of the local population. And the fact that CA and NY are mentioned rather than Oklahoma and Idaho is far more likely to be the result of there actually being Asian people in New York and California. Plus, of course, these two states are among the most populated. There are far more Trump voters in California than the Dakotas.

There are 90,000 Asian Americans in Oklahoma. There are over a million in Texas. And more than half a million in Florida. Certainly enough for a pre-mediated act of political terrorism to find a target.

You're constructing a false dichotomy where you assume all Red counties are rural, white, and low-population. That's definitely not true outside the coastal states. If the trend is being primarily driven by Republican voters, the Trump-stronghold of Houston (which has one of the largest Asian-American populations of any American city) should be a hotbed of hate crimes. Yet far more seem to occur in San Francisco. Clearly there's an x-factor that goes beyond Trump.

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Post by echaozh »

hacknat wrote: post #64
babesh wrote: post #32

There is semi-hidden animosity between the black and some Asian communities. Chinese immigrants are often the ones first moving into and then buying out people in black neighborhoods. Asian kids do disproportionately well in urban schools. Lowell High School is moving from a scoring based system to a lottery. Asian parents see this as unfair while black parents see the previous system as unfair. Chinese are tradition…

> The trade war with China has spread to demonization of Asians. Has it really though? I agree with pretty much everything else you said (though I’m unsure if getting a gun is warranted). I don’t think a trade war with China will spur too much in the way of anti-Asian sentiment. Americans were generally able to differentiate between Russians and their government during the Cold War. I’m not saying there won’t be nota…

What do you even mean if you call the US nativist? Native American Supremacist?

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Post by 3131s »

ipqk wrote: post #57
babesh wrote: post #32

There is semi-hidden animosity between the black and some Asian communities. Chinese immigrants are often the ones first moving into and then buying out people in black neighborhoods. Asian kids do disproportionately well in urban schools. Lowell High School is moving from a scoring based system to a lottery. Asian parents see this as unfair while black parents see the previous system as unfair. Chinese are tradition…

Semi-hidden? Tensions between black & korean-americans was a huge part of the 1992 LA Riots.

All ethnicities go to war with each other in LA, it's such a hell hole. Certain Mexican gangs in the 90s were targeting blacks with extreme violence, not to say that it doesn't go both ways. Still to this day there is a lot of tension between Sureno gangs and Black gangs.

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Post by exolymph »

nexthash wrote: post #39
exolymph wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt that the teenagers running up to Asian elders to push them over are motivated by hawkish sentiment toward China. I'd be surprised if they have any awareness of geopolitics whatsoever.

First of all, you underestimate the intelligence of teens and their ability to perceive/think about the world. Second, if there's a pattern of attacks on Asian elders in America as discussed in the article, that isn't any accident. They are being identified and targeted because of their race, motivated by fearmongering about traditional nativist myths and the 'coronavirus made by Asians' myth.

Nah, it has much more to do with long-standing tensions between the black (Black?) and Asian communities.

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Post by vmception »

3131s wrote: post #117
ipqk wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Semi-hidden? Tensions between black & korean-americans was a huge part of the 1992 LA Riots.

All ethnicities go to war with each other in LA, it's such a hell hole. Certain Mexican gangs in the 90s were targeting blacks with extreme violence, not to say that it doesn't go both ways. Still to this day there is a lot of tension between Sureno gangs and Black gangs.

Westside is still good ... right?

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Post by rexpop »

babesh wrote: post #108
rexpop wrote: post #104

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> Chinese immigrants are often the ones first moving into and then buying out people in black neighborhoods. My mistake, I took this for a confession. I'll admit I got angrier with you than I should have when you said you were "buying a gun". I took that as a threat of violence, and that is what I responded to. It's not "Asians" I should be angry with, nor even "Immigrants" since, as you say, many flee violence and p…

There was discrimination against blacks and Latinos. There was lesser discrimination against Asians. One big difference is that some Asian cultures were big on pooling resources and helping family. I suspect that black culture was weakened by discrimination and Latino culture is just a generation or two behind Asian cultures in terms of home ownership (there seems to be a lot of pooling in some of those cultures). Ma…

> Some of those Latino kids growing up in those neighborhoods are now in white collar jobs.

Tech companies are hiring 100x as many H1-B Asian immigrants as they are local Latino workers.

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