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The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Re: The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Post by dash2 »

This article doesn’t back up its claim. The only evidence for an increase in hate crimes is: “a 1,900 percent increase anti-Asian hate crimes in New York City in the past year — there were 20 incidents in the first half of 2020 alone, compared to one in the whole of 2019.”

1900% sounds huge, but the absolute numbers are not. Show me that it’s not a process with mean of 10 and sd of 9. Better still, give me figures for all of the US and show me there’s been an increase. The absence of this statistic is telling. Overall: fake news until proven otherwise!

Re: The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Post by stuart78 »

While not disputing the core point about escalating violence against Asian Americans, this article seems to view any crime or violence as racially motivated. There is a robbery in there, for example, which suggest an alternate motivation. Would be useful to be more clear on what the author considers a hate crime vs crime whose victim is Asian.

Re: The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Post by [deleted] »

PurpleFoxy wrote: post #13
dcolkitt wrote: post #6

> Many blame the Trump administration for inciting this violence; Trump and numerous other members of his White House staff embraced racist and xenophobic anti-Asian rhetoric... > NYPD date showed that there has been a 1,900 percent increase anti-Asian hate crimes in New York City in the past year... An 84-year-old Thai American man, Vicha Ratanapakdee, was killed in an unprovoked attack in San Francisco; a 64-year-o…

How much longer can we blame trump for everything before realising America has problems deeper than one person.

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Re: The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Post by xenihn »

devmunchies wrote: post #35
babesh wrote: post #32

There is semi-hidden animosity between the black and some Asian communities. Chinese immigrants are often the ones first moving into and then buying out people in black neighborhoods. Asian kids do disproportionately well in urban schools. Lowell High School is moving from a scoring based system to a lottery. Asian parents see this as unfair while black parents see the previous system as unfair. Chinese are tradition…

> I’m getting a gun. good luck. ammo sold out across country.

Fortunately we can afford scalper prices with our tech salaries.

Re: The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Post by pkkim »

f430 wrote: post #12
baggy_trough wrote: post #5

Most of the attacks are from blacks but you'd never know it from reading that article, which mentions a white attacker in 1982 and Donald Trump.

Same with LA riots. We all know who were behind it but we can't even say it because of intimidation and political "incorrectness". Roof Koreans remember exactly who they were shooting at. edit: I guess you win the bet. You were flagged within 12 minutes. For the awful amount of whining HN does when it comes to big tech censorship, it's guilty of the very same thing. The irony. I predict my comments will soon be flagg…

Parent probably would not have been flagged if they had documented their sweeping claim with evidence, but they didn't. It added little to the discussion.

Re: The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Post by justinzollars »

dash2 wrote: post #51

This article doesn’t back up its claim. The only evidence for an increase in hate crimes is: “a 1,900 percent increase anti-Asian hate crimes in New York City in the past year — there were 20 incidents in the first half of 2020 alone, compared to one in the whole of 2019.” 1900% sounds huge, but the absolute numbers are not. Show me that it’s not a process with mean of 10 and sd of 9. Better still, give me figures fo…

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-02-08/attacks-...

Re: The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Post by ipqk »

babesh wrote: post #32

There is semi-hidden animosity between the black and some Asian communities. Chinese immigrants are often the ones first moving into and then buying out people in black neighborhoods. Asian kids do disproportionately well in urban schools. Lowell High School is moving from a scoring based system to a lottery. Asian parents see this as unfair while black parents see the previous system as unfair. Chinese are tradition…

Semi-hidden? Tensions between black & korean-americans was a huge part of the 1992 LA Riots.

Re: The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Post by michaelyoshika »

Even on HN you can't speak anything good for China so this is no suprise at all unless you think these criminals can tell the difference between a government or a party and a group of people. And how can you ask these criminals for that if many Ivy League graduates fail to recognize it.

The only way for Asian Americans to survive is to protect yourself with whatever you have.

Downvote me white boys.

Re: The US Is Seeing a Spike in Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

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Post by solipsism »

ahelwer wrote: post #45
solipsism wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no good opinion on whether or not China, the nation and its government, should be considered an "enemy". But reasonable people can believe a government is an antagonist, while not blaming individuals from that nation. If people are getting confused, or are just plain racist, and are blaming individuals for the sins of a government, then that's the problem to solve. But the way to solve it isn't by avoiding unc…

This "I hate the government, not the people" schtick is a cop out. The Chinese people overwhelmingly support the actions of their government. Beyond that, the idea that the media can wash their hands of this because people should know they're talking about the Chinese government , not Chinese people , is just incredibly generous to a class of people who absolutely know what they are doing.

The Chinese people overwhelmingly support the actions of their government.

How is that relevant? A person who disagrees with me isn't my enemy.

Beyond that, the idea that the media can wash their hands of this because people should know they're talking about the Chinese government, not Chinese people, is just incredibly generous to a class of people who absolutely know what they are doing.

I can't figure out what you're saying here. What do they know they're doing? And do you have any evidence of your claim?

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Post by genericone »

nexthash wrote: post #50
BikiniPrince wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

9mm Sig with some hollow points. Although you will likely be limited to an overpriced f&n. Welcome to the club!

If I could downvote you, I would. You are promoting the use of a dangerous, lethal weapon loaded with the most damaging kind of ammunition on other people. How can you be so cruel? Edit: people seem to be downvoting my comment without context. The original commenter was advocating for the usage of a gun to kill innocent people. It disgusts me that so many people on this website seem to agree/sympathize with them.

Hollow points don't shoot through people, whereas solid slugs do. Hollow points are the most damaging for only the 1 target, because it dissipates all the damage upon impact.
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