Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

Post by Chris2048 » Tue, Feb 09, 2021, 1:10 AM UTC

anthony_r wrote: post #301

_qulr wrote: post #285

It's painfully clear at this point that we need a consumer "bill of rights" to protect us from these giant tech companies. At the very least, companies must be legally required to present you in writing with the so-called violation of terms they're accusing you of, evidence of the violation, and a phone # or other immediate contact so that you can dispute the accusations. It's insane that these basic legal rights don…

You're not seeing the other side of the coin - the huge amount of spam and abuse that such systems correctly identify and remove. If every abuser requests those explanations (which they will) there will be far more spam going around the Internet. Just think about the army of "Facebook content moderators" who were a popular topic on HN recently due to the concerns over their mental health. (I am offering no solutions…

Post by Chris2048 » Tue, Feb 09, 2021, 1:10 AM UTC

p410n3 wrote: post #9

This happens again and again. I have had that happen to my twitter account. I see this regulary on HN. My suspicion is that this is mostly happening because platforms that big like google or twitter rely very heavily on machine learning and other AI related technology to ban people. Because honestly, the amount of spam and abuse that are likely happening on these platforms has to be mind boggling high. So I get why t…

Post by abandonliberty » Tue, Feb 09, 2021, 2:44 AM UTC

brundolf wrote: post #629

nvarsj wrote: post #528

I feel like Google is a case study in an engineering only company. Everything is reduced to a technical problem. Incentives are aligned to solve technical problems. No one wants to work on something unless it is technically interesting and new. There is no incentive at all for delivering an excellent user experience over the long term - which usually can't be done with tech only, and involves a lot of dredge work of…

Stadia, from day one, has seemed like an engineering-oriented project. It's a cool tech that nobody asked for and not many people actually want (and has been atrociously packaged as an actual product). I can just hear the kickoff meeting: "We have some of the best cloud engineers in the world, we have one of the biggest fleets of data centers. Not a lot of companies could reasonably implement cloud gaming, but I bet…

Post by tdeck » Tue, Feb 09, 2021, 3:07 AM UTC

abandonliberty wrote: post #955

brundolf wrote: post #629

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Stadia, from day one, has seemed like an engineering-oriented project. It's a cool tech that nobody asked for and not many people actually want (and has been atrociously packaged as an actual product). I can just hear the kickoff meeting: "We have some of the best cloud engineers in the world, we have one of the biggest fleets of data centers. Not a lot of companies could reasonably implement cloud gaming, but I bet…

Check out the stadia subreddit. It seems they've managed to connect with a pretty passionate group of innovators/early adopters. https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/

Post by stormcode » Tue, Feb 09, 2021, 4:17 AM UTC

lamontcg wrote: post #958

whack wrote: post #932

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Honestly, the answer is to charge people a fee, in order to appeal a ban. A fee that covers the cost of investigating the incident, making it revenue-neutral. This way, Google would have every incentive to investigate thoroughly all appeals, including repeated appeals by the same person. From the user's perspective, it's still a pretty good deal. There's a 99.999% chance that you get to use gmail/youtube/etc for free…

So now banning people incorrectly is a revenue generator? The answer is to force google to be open and more transparent through regulations and have to scale up to deal with it and eat into their profits. The assumption up front should not be that we need to care about protecting their profits.