It should warn me "DO NOT CLICK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE HAIRY BALLS"
The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men
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Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sign me up! I have 3 kids and the existing methods available for ensuring we don't have a 4th are, at best, inconvenient. (Condoms are annoying; the pill messes with my wife's emotions; and either of us getting snipped seems scarily irreversible.) I'll be keeping an eye open for trials here in the US and on any more news about this procedure trickling out from India. hooray for science!
Bizarre to be giving contraceptive advice on HN, but you should really look into IUDs. They're far less hormonal than the pill, and only require maintenance every 5 years.
There might have been advances on IUDs, but my mother had a very bad time with one (she had to be operated on to remove it).
Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men
#163I have a two-year old daughter. I want more kids, not fewer. If I had known how amazing raising a kid was, I would have started sooner. Smart people need to bring more smart people to the world.
You comment puzzles me. Hopefully you will reply below.
Are you discounting the value of reversible birth control based upon your feelings at a certain point in time? Also remember that evolution has probably programmed children be "amazing" until they can fend for themselves.
Presumably you're comfortably middle-class in a first-world country with a good social contract (yes, kid-friendly services like subsidized/free public schools and universities are a safety net). You need to step back and think about societies which don't have such luxuries.
And sorry to get all personal on you, but do you use ANY scientific form of birth control? Are you ok with you/your SO getting pregnant every year (unsure about your gender, hence hedging)? That's usually what happens w/o birth control. If you do use scientific birth control (so-called "rhythm" method etc don't count) then your comment is pretty hypocritical.
Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. IIRC, the "opening bit" that camiller was referencing above was about how intelligent people were continually having fewer children while less intelligent people bred as quickly as they could. (ninja edit: here ya go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSROlfR7WTo )
Ok, but isn't that difference in birthdate orthogonal to whether the "intelligence" is a result of nature or nurture? (Don't forget that when you have children you're not just propagating genes, but memes as well. Kids raised on Jersey Shore will tune in to Ow, My Balls!) I don't recall the movie taking a stance towards nature. In fact, the moral of the whole story is to try to solve problems, and the great speech at…
> Don't forget that when you have children you're not just propagating genes, but memes as well. Kids raised on Jersey Shore will tune in to Ow, My Balls!
...right, which would make it irrelevant whether high-IQ parents are having kids or not (they can still work as educators, scientists, leaders -- much the same situation as now), which in turn would make that opening scene of the movie a non-sequitur.
> These are messages about cultural priorities, not genetic limitations.
Yes, but they are also the only feasible remaining strategy left given the resources at hand at the end. IIRC, the lead character was tested as having the highest recorded IQ in the world, so it's not like his strategy for solving problems could be "go find high IQ couples and mate them in a high-IQ zoo".
Maybe I'm wrong. I only watched it once, back at a time when I thought the world was doomed and the movie was prophetic (so I didn't really pay close attention). OTOH, a quick search online finds that I'm not the only one that interpreted it this way, so at the least it was less clear than it could have been on this point.
Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok, but isn't that difference in birthdate orthogonal to whether the "intelligence" is a result of nature or nurture? (Don't forget that when you have children you're not just propagating genes, but memes as well. Kids raised on Jersey Shore will tune in to Ow, My Balls!) I don't recall the movie taking a stance towards nature. In fact, the moral of the whole story is to try to solve problems, and the great speech at…
> Don't forget that when you have children you're not just propagating genes, but memes as well. Kids raised on Jersey Shore will tune in to Ow, My Balls! ...right, which would make it irrelevant whether high-IQ parents are having kids or not (they can still work as educators, scientists, leaders -- much the same situation as now), which in turn would make that opening scene of the movie a non-sequitur. > These are m…
(they can still work as educators, scientists, leaders -- much the same situation as now)
I don't think working as an educator or leader, in the movie's world, would make any difference. They would be, after all, attempting to educate or lead people who equate speaking in grammatical, semantically precise sentences with "talking like a fag". (see Dr. Lexus, etc.)
As for Scientists, they were consumed with solving the problems of hair loss and prolonging erections.
Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men
#166I have a two-year old daughter. I want more kids, not fewer. If I had known how amazing raising a kid was, I would have started sooner. Smart people need to bring more smart people to the world.
You comment puzzles me. Hopefully you will reply below. Are you discounting the value of reversible birth control based upon your feelings at a certain point in time? Also remember that evolution has probably programmed children be "amazing" until they can fend for themselves. Presumably you're comfortably middle-class in a first-world country with a good social contract (yes, kid-friendly services like subsidized/fr…
I started two write a response, twice, but your arbitrary assumptions don't deserve answers. Your general tone does not indicate a desire for dialogue.
Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
You comment puzzles me. Hopefully you will reply below. Are you discounting the value of reversible birth control based upon your feelings at a certain point in time? Also remember that evolution has probably programmed children be "amazing" until they can fend for themselves. Presumably you're comfortably middle-class in a first-world country with a good social contract (yes, kid-friendly services like subsidized/fr…
I started two write a response, twice, but your arbitrary assumptions don't deserve answers. Your general tone does not indicate a desire for dialogue.
Your original post is completely off-topic, or do you actually want everyone to have as many kids as humanly possible? That would equal 1 kid a year, do you want everyone to have 1 kid a year, even teenagers, grandmas..everyone? No? Then stay on topic, which is prevention.