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The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by huherto »

blipcjbfk wrote: post #70
solarmist wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are women on the pill any more trust worthy? I've known women who say they're on the pill just because they didn't wanna use/buy condoms. Surprise, surprise I now know people that have kids that probably shouldn't. Also, condom misuse is a big problem in general and is the cause of the low rate of success for condoms 85% vs proper use 98%. The people that need condoms the most (uneducated/young people) are the on…

What is "proper" condom use? Honest question, as I pretty much just roll a condom on... Is there more to it?

Adding to other comments. Make sure it didn't break. You can try blowing air inside to see. If it broke use an emergency contraceptive.

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by roc »

yason wrote: post #89
michaelchisari wrote: post #76

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You didn't get the banana demonstration in high school? For instance, If you don't leave a reservoir at the tip, it increases the possibility that the condom will break.

There's that tiny reservoir at the tip of the rubber already just for that: you really have to work hard to pull it so tight that the reservoir itself gets stretched all over the tip of your penis.

The bigger problem is that it can capture air as the condom is being put on. The pressure from that captured air increases the risk of breakage. Ergo, 'proper' application involves pinching the reservoir tip as the condom is being rolled on.

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by jackowayed »

hugh3 wrote: post #71
solarmist wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are women on the pill any more trust worthy? I've known women who say they're on the pill just because they didn't wanna use/buy condoms. Surprise, surprise I now know people that have kids that probably shouldn't. Also, condom misuse is a big problem in general and is the cause of the low rate of success for condoms 85% vs proper use 98%. The people that need condoms the most (uneducated/young people) are the on…

Also, condom misuse is a big problem in general and is the cause of the low rate of success for condoms 85% vs proper use 98%. The people that need condoms the most (uneducated/young people) are the ones that just throw them on without making sure they know how to properly use them. Yeah. As far as I'm concerned, kids should be taught to always use two redundant forms of birth control. No one form of (temporary) birt…

It's worth noting what those percentages mean. They report percentages that mean that 1-n% of couples who use it as their sole birth control method for a year get pregnant. So 98% doesn't mean you get pregnant 1/50 times.

98% still isn't great (if you think about it, it means you're fairly likely to have 1 unwanted pregnancy in your life if you always use a 98% effective method), but it's a lot better than how it sounds to people who don't know what those percentages mean.

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by fastfinner »

sudont wrote: post #62
jcromartie wrote: post #27

I have nothing to add except that reading the description of the process made me feel physically uncomfortable.

That's because you've got a physical identifier of this concept in your mind. Does the idea of a pacemaker feel bad? Probably not, because your "heart" is an abstract idea--you'll probably never see it with your own eyes. A lot of professors teaching dissection have noted your feelings, girls in general don't have a squeamishness to overcome in testicular dissection since they don't have that externality of organs.

Wow I never associated squeamishness with physicality/abstractness of the idea. It does seem to hold up!

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by jrockway »

jonprins wrote: post #92
bmohlenhoff wrote: post #68

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I've been to a chiropractor before and it really does work, at least for the problem I was experiencing (which was some sort of simple alignment problem.) The guy basically just pushed on my spinal column in different directions and I could clearly feel things moving back into place. I definitely would not lump them in with the quackery that is homeopathy, as long as you stay within the bounds of "pushing bones into…

Until you realize that your bones were 'out of alignment' because you have weak core muscles that you should build up instead. In fact, 'pushing spinal column bones into alignment' without any x-rays or further inspection sounds pretty dangerous to me. What if the chiropractor pushes it too far and strains something, causing me to return for another adjustment? Everyone I know who has tried a chiropractor ends up goi…

I've seen a chiropractor and x-rays are a part of the procedure. You can't do medicine without seeing that there is a problem, correcting the problem, and then verifying that the problem is solved.

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by rmc »

Wickk wrote: post #29
rmc wrote: post #21

Will this cause an increase in sexually transmitted diseases? If straight men don't have to wear condoms for pregnancy-avoidance, and straight men & women don't like to pretend/boast that they've had lots of sex (unlike gay couples), then the pressure to go bareback (without a condom) increases and there might be more HIV/AIDS/STIs

>straight men & women don't like to pretend/boast that they've had lots of sex (unlike gay couples), then the pressure to go bareback (without a condom) increases and there might be more HIV/AIDS/STIs If I'm reading this right, you're under the impression that a condom protects you against the vast majority of STIs, correct? Yeah no. Condoms are primarily preventative towards towards diseases that are spread via Seme…

Yes, you're right that STDs can still be spread with condom use, but with condoms the odds are better.

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by prodigal_erik »

esoteriq wrote: post #77
solarmist wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are women on the pill any more trust worthy? I've known women who say they're on the pill just because they didn't wanna use/buy condoms. Surprise, surprise I now know people that have kids that probably shouldn't. Also, condom misuse is a big problem in general and is the cause of the low rate of success for condoms 85% vs proper use 98%. The people that need condoms the most (uneducated/young people) are the on…

Wow, these women are the height of irresponsibility. Here's my theory about why people think that women are more responsible for birth control. 1. They are more directly affected by pregnancy. They are the ones who would have to bear the child or to have an abortion. Abortions are not fun. Vacuuming your uterus is probably not a pleasant experience. Of course, I'm being somewhat flippant. I do think that women who ha…

The height of irresponsibility here is women who claim to be on the pill because they actually want kids, but to afford that they have to "oops" some guy who doesn't. This, and paternity fraud, are what make male birth control important.

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by anamax »

jgervin wrote: post #94
noonespecial wrote: post #40

Looks like the future of space, medicine, and technology belongs to the countries that have not yet hobbled themselves with lawyers and bureaucrats to the point that something must be perfect if it is to exist at all.

Totally agree. If they continue without all the lawyers they will be far more advanced in 20 years. If this or some offshoot ever makes it to the US, we should see a dramatic decrease in family law, Federal subsides for child support, and could lead to dramatic decrease in crime. That is, if it becomes as available as womens birth control.

> If this or some offshoot ever makes it to the US, we should see a dramatic decrease in family law, Federal subsides for child support, and could lead to dramatic decrease in crime. That is, if it becomes as available as womens birth control.

Nope.

Just as with vasectomies, we'll see far more men claiming to have had the procedure and women will believe them.

Yes, a few men who wouldn't have gotten a vasectomy will do this, but they're in the noise.

Re: The Revolutionary Birth Control Method for Men

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Post by hoprocker »

grantbachman wrote: post #58
hoprocker wrote: post #43

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Could be. The question you suggest is then: do we keep this off the market to protect humanity from itself? Should we retract oral contraception on the same grounds? There are many inferences that could be hand-waved here, but, fundamentally, RISUG increases the range of options related to reproductive choice, no more.

No, I'm not suggesting that at all, merely stating an observation. As long as people know the operation doesn't protect you from contracting STD's, that's good enough for me. It's their choice whether to still use a condom or not. In my opinion it can't get to market fast enough! Even if it doesn't end up being 100% effective, it's another layer of protection.

Education is always important, agreed.
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