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Background: http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1306816425.html In all fairness, the guy was being a dick (no pun intended) to Zed. However, Zed should have kept the insults to the troll and left Github, Powerset, Engine Yard, and the Ruby community out.
How does anyone in the Ruby "community" have the time to get any actual work done? No other language community in the world behaves like this.
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> For example, I didn't contact github because I knew one of the peole working there was in on the joke. For the record, this isn't true no matter how many times you repeat it. You should have emailed us and we would have taken care of it without a holiday weekend filled with unnecessary drama.
> For the record, this isn't true no matter how many times you repeat it. What it looks like from an outsider: He said, (s)he said. I don't know if Zed is right. I don't know if you are right. What I do know is Zed Shaw ranted and got stuff fixed. Apparently, their was some merit to what he was saying, and at least the majority of his story can confirmed to be true. As for the employee, it's just as easy for you to b…
> This is what Debian maintainers are doing, but there's a very specific reason why they do this and it's not a "culture clash". It's embrace and extend which they probably learned from Microsoft. You see, if you have to adapt your software and processes to their weird layout and packages, then you can't get off their platform. It is sadly pure business and has nothing to do with open source, quality, or culture.
> It's simply a tactic to make sure that you are stuck on Debian.
Whether you like Debian and agree with their technical decisions, or not, it's a non-profit completely based on open-source code. There is no business, and there is no motivation to lock you in to Debian, and there is no desire to do so, either. Complaining about Debian in technical terms is fine; making stuff up about the project is beyond the pale.
After that episode, I became much more inclined to take what Zed has to say with a large grain of salt.
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The same way the Open Source "community" has time to get actual work done - real developers do it while the trolls mess around.
But where are the Erlang trolls or the C++ trolls? They don't exist!
Real trolls ship.
I think this was a good response to an attention whore. EDIT: I wasn't trolling. Not even a single response?
I never understood why people absolutely loathe Zed Shaw.
I've only met Zed once, it was at EuroDjangoCon in Prague a few years ago. Zed did a keynote speech, and afterwards in the lobby as he sat down near me, I told him how much I enjoyed it, just expecting the usual "thanks, glad you did" or whatever. What actually followed was a nearly two hour conversation, over lunch, on topics from music to education to my dumb startup idea. Zed talked with passion and intelligence on all three, and seemed genuinely interested in what I was doing - and I'm just some dumb schmuck programmer he's never met before.
I see a lot of what is said about Zed online, and I think it's sad, because in real life, he's a fucking stand-up guy.
Background: http://sheddingbikes.com/posts/1306816425.html In all fairness, the guy was being a dick (no pun intended) to Zed. However, Zed should have kept the insults to the troll and left Github, Powerset, Engine Yard, and the Ruby community out.
How does anyone in the Ruby "community" have the time to get any actual work done? No other language community in the world behaves like this.
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How does anyone in the Ruby "community" have the time to get any actual work done? No other language community in the world behaves like this.
The Ruby community didn't behave this way before 2005 or so.
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> For the record, this isn't true no matter how many times you repeat it. What it looks like from an outsider: He said, (s)he said. I don't know if Zed is right. I don't know if you are right. What I do know is Zed Shaw ranted and got stuff fixed. Apparently, their was some merit to what he was saying, and at least the majority of his story can confirmed to be true. As for the employee, it's just as easy for you to b…
Here's another data point: when Zed went off on Debian, he was either really mistaken or simply imagining things that have no connection with reality. > This is what Debian maintainers are doing, but there's a very specific reason why they do this and it's not a "culture clash". It's embrace and extend which they probably learned from Microsoft. You see, if you have to adapt your software and processes to their weird…
Like I said, it's essentially a he said, she said match. github, if anything, let themselves get pulled into it. Just fix the problem and move on. The only they've done is make note of what they disagree with (and frankly, their denials don't match up with what Zed accused anyways).
I learned a long time ago that as a company, you should avoid getting into a pissing contest on the forums.
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Given the choice between a private dashboard vs a public repo list being spammed, I'll take the former, any day. I don't want either, but the former is an annoyance to me and only me . The latter is something that can (potentially) give a bad impression of me to others . Remember that reputation is important. Always.
I'm not sure how many times I have to say it: Adding someone as a collaborator is not publicly visible until you collaborate (make commits) on the project. At that point we show the activity on your public profile.
Also; with the "professionals" thing - I totally get what you mean, and it's abundantly clear you guys are doing things for the right reasons, but the tone kind of jarred with me a little bit there. Nothing drastic, but I'm a person first, a professional second...
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> Can you explain where in my blog post I claim I'm great? Maybe people still remember this: http://web.archive.org/web/20090218021137/http://zedshaw.com... Sure you try to mask it as an attempt to be funny, but even if "it’s all an act" that acts make the person. Now I am off to http://bellard.org/ to clean my mind a bit.
Come on, admit that Zed is funny with style. He's bragging, too, but it's never condescending. That's the difference between a gentleman and dandy, and an ugly troll.