Great news for Rust, congrats
Rust Foundation: Hello, World
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Re: Rust Foundation: Hello, World
#22The board's vote seems to be heavily biased in favor of large corporations, with half the seats for them, 2 for the community, and 3 for "project areas." Contrast this with the governance of GCC, which has all of them as community members or project areas.
I can't find much in the way of Rust credentials for the rest of the members but, looking at their profiles, Nell (MS's representative) used to manage crates.io while at Mozilla, and Lars (Google) used to manage the Servo team. While they are technically representing corporate interests, they're also heavily invested in the community.
Re: Rust Foundation: Hello, World
#23The board's vote seems to be heavily biased in favor of large corporations, with half the seats for them, 2 for the community, and 3 for "project areas." Contrast this with the governance of GCC, which has all of them as community members or project areas.
> Contrast this with the governance of GCC
The equivalent of that would be the Rust teams[0] as far as I can tell, which will still be the governing body of all development, and won't be replaced by the Rust foundation.
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#24The board's vote seems to be heavily biased in favor of large corporations, with half the seats for them, 2 for the community, and 3 for "project areas." Contrast this with the governance of GCC, which has all of them as community members or project areas.
The goal of the foundation is to work as a bridge between the Rust teams and the corporate world (e.g. sponsorship, licensing, etc). As the blog post notes, the actual development of the language is fully open and is comprised of RFCs and the like which allow anyone to contribute. It's the core team who oversee this process, not the foundation.
In short the foundation works for Rust, not the other way around.
Re: Rust Foundation: Hello, World
#25A win for Rust for sure, but it also seems like a loss for Mozilla.
Re: Rust Foundation: Hello, World
#26The board's vote seems to be heavily biased in favor of large corporations, with half the seats for them, 2 for the community, and 3 for "project areas." Contrast this with the governance of GCC, which has all of them as community members or project areas.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Peixin Hou seems to be a director on Linux foundation too. Probably responsible for corporate lobbyism in OSS in general.
Well, hw is the top contributor to linux kernel in 5.10. https://lwn.net/Articles/839772/ . I remember it was discussed in HN before.
It's pretty reasonable for a hardware vendor building on top of Linux to upstream their changes.
Re: Rust Foundation: Hello, World
#28Awesome news! Rust is easily the best programming experience I've had--the language feels incredibly well thought out, common tooling like doc generation and dependency management are included with the language, and the compiler takes full advantage of language features such that my editor's linter is able to detect most mistakes I make and the language itself guards me from doing anything obviously unsafe. I thought…
It’s booming. I’m considering making Rust or Haskell a requirement for my current remote job search. And given that I have no strong salary requirements it’s actually going to work, could not have done this 4 years ago.
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#29Are there plans for waiving the relevant trademarks? I know many people are fine with them, but seeing how the FSF directory lists it as an "anti-feature" is a bit disheartening.
I love the FSF, but frankly as a user, I'm glad that not just anybody can claim to be Rust. Especially so now that the trademark is controlled by a dedicated nonprofit.
But how could anyone reasonably claim they are Rust, particularly given the large reach of it's online services, like docs, crates.io and rustup? Those trademarks are very unlikely to produce anything except another round of debian's icy rebrands.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Huawei uses Rust to develop a real-time OS for IoT devices, and in the StratoVirt project, a high-performance virtualization platform. According to engineers at Huawei, the company organizes routine Rust training and evaluation activities to encourage its large number of C/C++ developers to write safer code." https://www.infoq.com/news/2021/01/rust-china-conf/ ----------- I think they've been a big user of Rust in C…
I think I saw something about reports that FB has hired a number of individuals to work full-time on the Rust lang, so there are probably lots of companies contributing to Rust in ways that don't get them features on the website.
Yes I'm aware, which is exactly why I find it surprising that they aren't involved in the foundation even though the other tech giants that have made investments in Rust of similar size are.