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Rust Foundation: Hello, World

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Re: Rust Foundation: Hello, World

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Post by malwrar »

Awesome news! Rust is easily the best programming experience I've had--the language feels incredibly well thought out, common tooling like doc generation and dependency management are included with the language, and the compiler takes full advantage of language features such that my editor's linter is able to detect most mistakes I make and the language itself guards me from doing anything obviously unsafe. I thought the rewrite-everything Rust people were annoying and that turned me off initially, but ever since getting involved with the community I've found that it's full of lots of very passionate people working on a stunning variety of interesting new projects. You really feel like you're on the ground floor of the next generation of systems programming languages, enough to where I've even considered replacing my habitual use of Python with Rust considering how easy it is to write.

Seriously, it's worth your time to explore. If you have a spare evening and want to be enchanted, highly suggest giving the Rust book a gander: https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/book/

Re: Rust Foundation: Hello, World

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Post by hobofan »

blacktulip wrote: post #6

Genuine question: what is Huawei's role in Rust Lang? It is in the founding member companies list.

"Huawei uses Rust to develop a real-time OS for IoT devices, and in the StratoVirt project, a high-performance virtualization platform. According to engineers at Huawei, the company organizes routine Rust training and evaluation activities to encourage its large number of C/C++ developers to write safer code."

https://www.infoq.com/news/2021/01/rust-china-conf/

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I think they've been a big user of Rust in China for some time now, though I'm not aware of any big technical contributions to the language (or the core ecosystem) by them. In a similar vein, I find it a bit surprising that Facebook (or whatever they rebranded Libra to) is not part of the foundation. I think they are the only company that was interviewed when Rust's usage/usability experience in big companies was evaluated, that is not part of the foundation.

Re: Rust Foundation: Hello, World

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Post by steveklabnik »

Hey folks! Normally, I am all over these threads answering questions, but I am not on the foundation board and did none of the real work to get this going! The foundation members are unlikely to comment on Hacker News, so if you have big questions you want answered, contacting them via the address on the site is the right way.

Personally, I am very excited that this is happening, and really looking forward to the future here.

Re: Rust Foundation: Hello, World

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Post by lacker »

It's a little concerning to see Huawei involved so closely in Rust, given the concerns about them silently including spyware in their products to give access to the Chinese government. I don't think I'm being a total conspiracy theorist; for example the UK, US and Sweden all ban Huawei equipment from their countries' mobile phone networks. Hopefully since this code is all open source there is sufficient scrutiny to avoid any shenanigans.

Re: Rust Foundation: Hello, World

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Post by crazypython »

The board's vote seems to be heavily biased in favor of large corporations, with half the seats for them, 2 for the community, and 3 for "project areas." Contrast this with the governance of GCC, which has all of them as community members or project areas.

Re: Rust Foundation: Hello, World

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Post by Erlangen »

oytis wrote: post #9
blacktulip wrote: post #6

Genuine question: what is Huawei's role in Rust Lang? It is in the founding member companies list.

Peixin Hou seems to be a director on Linux foundation too. Probably responsible for corporate lobbyism in OSS in general.

Well, hw is the top contributor to linux kernel in 5.10. https://lwn.net/Articles/839772/. I remember it was discussed in HN before.

Re: Rust Foundation: Hello, World

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Post by metreo »

hobofan wrote: post #12
blacktulip wrote: post #6

Genuine question: what is Huawei's role in Rust Lang? It is in the founding member companies list.

"Huawei uses Rust to develop a real-time OS for IoT devices, and in the StratoVirt project, a high-performance virtualization platform. According to engineers at Huawei, the company organizes routine Rust training and evaluation activities to encourage its large number of C/C++ developers to write safer code." https://www.infoq.com/news/2021/01/rust-china-conf/ ----------- I think they've been a big user of Rust in C…

I think I saw something about reports that FB has hired a number of individuals to work full-time on the Rust lang, so there are probably lots of companies contributing to Rust in ways that don't get them features on the website.

Re: Rust Foundation: Hello, World

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Post by rattray »

lvass wrote: post #5

Are there plans for waiving the relevant trademarks? I know many people are fine with them, but seeing how the FSF directory lists it as an "anti-feature" is a bit disheartening.

I love the FSF, but frankly as a user, I'm glad that not just anybody can claim to be Rust. Especially so now that the trademark is controlled by a dedicated nonprofit.
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