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Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by 2malaq »

jug wrote: post #55

This makes me anxious about my long time Gmail address. Back then I got it just because it and Google was cool, and their services had a good reputation. It was a different Google back then. If they had launched it this year I would never have got one because chances are it would have been cancelled by 2025. Gmail is really the only valuable thing that actually ties my life to Google. And it's not that hard to replac…

Yes, the good old Don't Be Evil days. I've asked so many people if they can remember Google's old slogan. Nobody does.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by Guthur »

viraptor wrote: post #57
Guthur wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then move off. It's not the only solution. There are alternatives to all these: Search, Email, Game streaming, Online doc editing, Etc

> Then move off. It works for you (as in, single person). Not for your friends and family who will ask you one day what to do about the account they lost. We (technical people) know this happens and have seen it happen - it is on us to push for better solution than convincing one person at a time. Unless one prefers nihilism and watching the world burn of course.

The world is not burning. Do you know what was before play store, YouTube, twitch, whatever... nothing.

It's not like they came and stomped over your beautiful garden.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by DesiLurker »

spicyramen wrote: post #51

Hey Google here is a feature: account reputation, anyone doing business with you, has that flag enabled and human reviewers will be supporting them

and pretty soon google is charging 'protection money' to all the victims of a hack.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by viraptor »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #37
3327 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good on him. Takes courage and an established product to do this. Good example of standing up.

Unfortunately this opens the door to unscrupulous devs publishing their own knock-off versions - or even repackaging the official Terraria Windows game and passing it off as their own work (resource/asset swaps, etc). My impression from reports I've read about all the major App Stores is that they won't put much effort into processing violation notifications or takedown requests when the publisher or developer filing…

> repackaging the official Terraria Windows game and passing it off as their own work

Those would be easy to take down due to code/asset reuse and name reuse. You don't need to be an author on the platform to file DMCA reports. Otherwise, there are already lots of actual Terraria clones by different names.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by deadmutex »

spicyramen wrote: post #51

Hey Google here is a feature: account reputation, anyone doing business with you, has that flag enabled and human reviewers will be supporting them

> anyone doing business with you

If they did this, how would you prevent people from saying that is unfair, or making it seem like it is pay to play, or something like that?

Disclaimer: Work at Google (far from this space); opinions are my own.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by Arech »

newbie578 wrote: post #19

I just don’t understand Google leadership, how can you allow stuff like this to happen and just ignore it? Your brand keeps getting more and more tainted, people make jokes out of your strategy and tendency to give up like a little child... I didn’t think I would ever say it, but I miss Eric Schmidt... Sundar has been an absolute disaster. Has Google even accomplished anything during his reign? And if they did, did t…

Same thing happened with Schmidt too. I have heard stories of people banned from (some) Google's services and unable to get any help a decade ago. Nothing new here, unfortunately((

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by SahAssar »

curiousgal wrote: post #13
nobodyshere wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd easily pay for a personal gmail account which has all the privacy protections on and also 24/7 access to customer support via chat and phone. Sadly most of that is only provided for business accounts.

I pay $6/month for a single user workspace to get that peace of mind. I don't understand why someone would entrust their digital live to a free service.

I've had to deal with googles support for Google Apps/GSuite/Google Workspace (or whatever they call it now) and in many cases it's not much better than no support. Often the people you could get on the phone had no overlap with the people that could help you and even when they could help you they had no sense of urgency and some pretty critical issues could take weeks to get a proper answer.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by hedora »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #37
3327 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good on him. Takes courage and an established product to do this. Good example of standing up.

Unfortunately this opens the door to unscrupulous devs publishing their own knock-off versions - or even repackaging the official Terraria Windows game and passing it off as their own work (resource/asset swaps, etc). My impression from reports I've read about all the major App Stores is that they won't put much effort into processing violation notifications or takedown requests when the publisher or developer filing…

If that happens, they should sue Google for dealing in counterfeit goods.

They’ll have a ridiculously strong case.

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by saddlerustle »

zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #50
rochak wrote: post #2

Is there really no way for a user to get in touch with a human agent? I read that Google automates the flagging and disabling of accounts but given how many people have their livelihood linked to these accounts, Google must have done something. It makes me scared how deep I have dived into the Google ecosystem. Time and time again I think about transitioning to someplace else but don’t know how to. It seems too daunt…

Google only takes calls for ad sales and gsuite support as far as I know. Beyond that shaming them on social media is the only way to get their attention. I used to work for a top five web site and even we couldn’t get ahold of anyone - one day Google decided to start crawling us at a rate of 120k rps and it was killing the site by pulling ancient content that was 100% cache miss. No way for us to get in touch with G…

Google One comes with phone support

Re: Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

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Post by JimDabell »

MattGaiser wrote: post #48
dsissitka wrote: post #38

Some context: > However, they were hit with a Terms of Service violation via email. They assumed it was issued accidentally, but three days later, their entire Google account was disabled without any warning or recourse. https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/terraria-studio-re-logic-...

> They assumed it was issued accidentally That seems like a dangerous assumption to make.

Three days from initial warning to disabling their account is ridiculous though. What if the person behind that mailbox was off sick or on holiday?
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