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The reverse brain drain

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Re: The reverse brain drain

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I think you unscientific impression is leading you astray. India has its share of problems, and it has its share of corrupt politicians. But it also has a pretty robust democracy and part of what returnees are bringing home is an appreciation for governments that work vs ones that don't. And when the people don't tolerate an ineffective government they change it. The other thing India is, is big. There is a lot of co…

Do you mean a threat to China's status as leading economic power, or a threat to China? Improvements in productivity help all of us, because we make more stuff to share around; it is not a zero sum game.

I believe if they are successful they will be a threat to China's economic growth and their border disputes may spill out into more explicit hostilities.

From an economic standpoint they may be able to put together cost competitive manufacturing facilities with a better quality of life for their workers. That, coupled with the increasingly forceful way in which China struggles to maintain its margins are threatening the delicate balance in China between the benefit of hard currency and the challenge of an upwardly mobile workforce. (or not which would turn out to be the problem)

As more companies are put under pressure to avoid doing business with companies like FoxConn and the ability to keep information about working conditions in China out of the press is reduced. It makes for a challenging environment for the Chinese. To have a neighbor state pick up the slack with workers who, if they are successful can move on to big houses and a more affluent lifestyle, and are thus both happier and more productive in their jobs. That is the threat economically.

If India were to provide a ready market for Afghanistan's raw mineral wealth, that too could be problematic for the Chinese.

Re: The reverse brain drain

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India is developing since you can exploit Indians via caste system. http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/may/03touch.htm China is developing since you can exploit Chinese by abusing human rights. http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-show/slide-show-1-tech-... Americans are suffering since US regime is letting Chindia exploit their people via outsourcing.

So seeing your children die of malnutrition is better than having an underpaid job so your kids can get half a meal? If people have loaf of bread they might actually be able to change their circumstances. How would banning outsourcing help lower caste Indians or ethnic minorities in China? I am not trolling, because if it will, I'd like to know how.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero%E2%80%93sum_game

Re: The reverse brain drain

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Unlike China, India is a multicultural society. India might disintegrate like USSR in next 20-50 years http://www.lewrockwell.com/sowell/sowell24.1.html

I think our biggest challenge is the people who are completely marginalised, like the forest people driven in to a communist rebellion. As far as multiculturalism goes, I still have hope that some semblence of the feeling of letting others be still survives in India.

On 4th August 1932 Round Table Conference, Prime Minister Ramsay MacDonald gave Autonomy/Homeland to Muslims/Christians/Anglo-Indians/Sikhs/SC/ST communities. Gandhi foiled it to favor forward caste community in India.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communal_Award

Re: The reverse brain drain

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India is definitely a country to watch. With China's one-child-per-family rule, it could very well be India that becomes the new super power in the next 20-50 years...

I'd like this to be true, but I can't help thinking that much of this is just wishful thinking. India has terrible infrastructure, which as far as I can make out is only getting worse. All-pervasive corruption is a big problem as well, as is the fact that _all_ (at least something like 85% or more) politicians are criminals. The (completely unscientific) impression I get is that things got better between 1995-2005 an…

India is importing 75% of its crude oil. 50% in USA & China. http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/

Re: The reverse brain drain

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I'd like this to be true, but I can't help thinking that much of this is just wishful thinking. India has terrible infrastructure, which as far as I can make out is only getting worse. All-pervasive corruption is a big problem as well, as is the fact that _all_ (at least something like 85% or more) politicians are criminals. The (completely unscientific) impression I get is that things got better between 1995-2005 an…

I think you unscientific impression is leading you astray. India has its share of problems, and it has its share of corrupt politicians. But it also has a pretty robust democracy and part of what returnees are bringing home is an appreciation for governments that work vs ones that don't. And when the people don't tolerate an ineffective government they change it. The other thing India is, is big. There is a lot of co…

> And when the people don't tolerate an ineffective government they change it.

Easier said than done, or there wouldn't be so many long-standing ineffective governments around...

It is often easier for people to change the country they live in (i.e., emigrate) than to reform the government they live under.

Re: The reverse brain drain

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As per BBC, 80% Indians surviving on 20 rupees/day http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6946800.stm

The article is old and it quotes an unnamed 'survey' . I'm reminding you again, the discussion here is about progression of India from its own past but you're either coming up with figures for some particular year or some senseless comparison with other countries. In other words, you're simply trolling.

836 million Indians live on less than Rs 20 a day

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/836-million-indians-live-on-less-...

Re: The reverse brain drain

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post #53

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So seeing your children die of malnutrition is better than having an underpaid job so your kids can get half a meal? If people have loaf of bread they might actually be able to change their circumstances. How would banning outsourcing help lower caste Indians or ethnic minorities in China? I am not trolling, because if it will, I'd like to know how.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero%E2%80%93sum_game

I still don't see how that would help the poor people. Unless all you're talking about how it is diminishing income from someone who is already overpaid, which may be a good thing.
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