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Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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Post by Vespasian »

schwartzworld wrote: post #59
Vespasian wrote: post #55

Great project! To be honest I'm slightly annoyed whenever a github submission mentions the programming language for no specific reason. Rust is a great tool but it doesn't matter unless you want to participate in this project.

Of course it matters even if YOU don't want to participate. The techy types that frequent here may actually want to contribute, or be interested in how the code was implemented as a learning resource. Additionally, there are biased for and against programming languages, and I guarantee that there is a whole set of people on HN that would be interested in this project because it is a language they like. Rust means you…

I guess that's true and I shouldn't comment that "early" in the morning ;)

Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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Post by zelphirkalt »

bendiksolheim wrote: post #78
zelphirkalt wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only partly true, but I will ask again: What does reimplementing a Flash site in JS have to do with "HTML5 being ready"? How does HTML5 help you with rebuilding the same thing in _JS_? And why does that mean HTML5 is ready? Ready for what? It still doesn't connect. You can use JS to manipulate an SVG and animate it. You could theoretically just move absolutely positioned colored divs around ... Or you could draw thin…

You are not being downvoted because you point out logical flaws, you are being downvoted because you don’t contribute to the topic. Are you not aware of the discussion about HTML5 versus Flash, or do you just disagree with using HTML5 as an umbrella term here? Even the Wikipedia article [0] about HTML5 has a section on Flash, discussing features such as sound, video, graphics and interactive elements. With "HTML5 bei…

I have never heard anyone use HTML5 as an "umbrella term" for meaning HTML5 + JS + CSS(3). Why would anyone do that? It is kind of silly to do that. That changes the whole meaning of the OP. Yes, I heavily disagree with such imprecise usage of terms, that changes the whole meaning. In that case my criticism would have been that the OP is not very clear / ambiguous.

Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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Post by jtwaleson »

zelphirkalt wrote: post #77
jtwaleson wrote: post #70

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Obviously the replacement needed a combination of HTML5/CSS3/JS.

Only partly true, but I will ask again: What does reimplementing a Flash site in JS have to do with "HTML5 being ready"? How does HTML5 help you with rebuilding the same thing in _JS_? And why does that mean HTML5 is ready? Ready for what? It still doesn't connect. You can use JS to manipulate an SVG and animate it. You could theoretically just move absolutely positioned colored divs around ... Or you could draw thin…

> Ready for what?

Ready to re-create the most amazing website in human history.

> You could theoretically just move absolutely positioned colored divs around

I would say that in practical terms, this would mean that HTML5 is not ready.

> Downvote a comment, which points out a flaw in logic!

You must be fun at parties ;)

But if you want my final verdict: I agree with others in the thread that HTML is not a good replacement for Flash. Creativity was much easier to express in Flash.

Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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Post by newswasboring »

someperson wrote: post #79
newswasboring wrote: post #76

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As soon as I saw his handle is literally "GodSend14" I knew I was in for a nice ride.

Eccentric like the late https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TempleOS creator

Lets call a spade a spade. Its not "Eccentric", he either has serious mental health issues or is an American far right conspiracy theorist. And don't you go implying that all American far right conspiracy theorists have mental health issues, that is not proven or even logical in many ways.

Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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Post by kylowinter »

jtwaleson wrote: post #51
smcl wrote: post #47

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I googled Peter K Joneleit after your description of him in the README and I was curious if you were just having a bit of fun or if he was involved in defining these web standards. Hooooo boy I was not prepared for his Twitter, it is wild

I was just having fun when I wrote it. Just saw his twitter feed... wow...

When trying to recreate the site in HTML5, how did you not notice the big "SOL" button on the flash page linking to his blog about how the Jews did 9/11 and other nonsense?

Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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Post by arghwhat »

jtwaleson wrote: post #20

Ok, funny story about ruffle: Years ago in 2012 some co-workers stumbled on the greatest website ever: http://www.novalight.net/NOVALIGHT.html (takes a while to load now) To prove that HTML5/CSS3 was finally ready, I started a side project to recreate it in JS: https://github.com/jtwaleson/NovaLight-Challenge . I never got far and I don't know if that means I never finish side projects or if Flash is officially super…

Oh god it's every PowerPoint secreting manager's dream and the worst nightmare of everybody else.

Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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Post by macspoofing »

>Ruffle is in the proof-of-concept stage and can currently run early Flash animations and games.

Yeah. Just like the 10,000 other Flash implementations. The problem is that SWF is very complex format and relies on proprietary codecs. Also, there are multiple runtimes to support. Like all attempts before it, simple cases will be covered but anything slightly more complicated will never work.

Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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Post by jtwaleson »

kylowinter wrote: post #85
jtwaleson wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was just having fun when I wrote it. Just saw his twitter feed... wow...

When trying to recreate the site in HTML5, how did you not notice the big "SOL" button on the flash page linking to his blog about how the Jews did 9/11 and other nonsense?

See my other comment. I gave it a cursory look and ignored it and I'm not sure what I feel about that. I agree with some others in the thread and try to look at the "art" separately from the "artist".

Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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Post by fortran77 »

kylowinter wrote: post #85
jtwaleson wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was just having fun when I wrote it. Just saw his twitter feed... wow...

When trying to recreate the site in HTML5, how did you not notice the big "SOL" button on the flash page linking to his blog about how the Jews did 9/11 and other nonsense?

Hacker News is full of people who support this sort of thing.
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