I wonder if something like Ruffle could one day be used to automatically and losslessly convert Flash files into other formats?
A Flash Player emulator written in Rust
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Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust
#72This is not an emulator.
Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust
#73I'm excited for this; flash is still wholly unmatched as an artistic expression tool. HTML5 and WebAssembly can, obviously, provide the technical chops; but we've never recovered the experience of a novice Flash user who, with no prior domain experience, could realize an inspired prototype game or entertaining animation in less than an hour. The tool was just that accessible, and the community that good.
Agree! It's not just unmatched on the web, for many purposes it's unmatched across the board. I remember reading that the English cartoon Duggee (which also happens to be my favourite children's show by far ) is 100% animated in Flash. Get this, it's a professional, prime time, internationally syndicated TV show and they use Flash because it let's the animators be more productive than anything else.
There has been so many cartoons made in flash, with great artistic result.
Well, turns out there's a wikipedia page on that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Flash_animated_televis... Even Family Guy started with Flash!
Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust
#74Ok, funny story about ruffle: Years ago in 2012 some co-workers stumbled on the greatest website ever: http://www.novalight.net/NOVALIGHT.html (takes a while to load now) To prove that HTML5/CSS3 was finally ready, I started a side project to recreate it in JS: https://github.com/jtwaleson/NovaLight-Challenge . I never got far and I don't know if that means I never finish side projects or if Flash is officially super…
This work should be put in the wikipedia list of outsider art[1].
Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust
#75I helped restoring JK Rowling official website [1] from 004 to 2010, which was entirely in Flash. It was a reproduction of her desktop / house, with a lot of fun sections, secrets, easter, eggs. After years rebuilding it (with swf files, decompiling them to understand the Ajax calls, etc), browsers announced they were going to stop supporting Flash, so all the hard work was almost useless (a few people saw it and loved it, though).
I tried Ruffle but unfortunately it still doesn't support all the original Flash features, so most of the website is unusable yet. But I wait for the way when they complete it and the website can be browseable again.
Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust
#76Ok, funny story about ruffle: Years ago in 2012 some co-workers stumbled on the greatest website ever: http://www.novalight.net/NOVALIGHT.html (takes a while to load now) To prove that HTML5/CSS3 was finally ready, I started a side project to recreate it in JS: https://github.com/jtwaleson/NovaLight-Challenge . I never got far and I don't know if that means I never finish side projects or if Flash is officially super…
I googled Peter K Joneleit after your description of him in the README and I was curious if you were just having a bit of fun or if he was involved in defining these web standards. Hooooo boy I was not prepared for his Twitter, it is wild
As soon as I saw his handle is literally "GodSend14" I knew I was in for a nice ride.
Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
So wait, you tried to rebuild a flash website in javascript for the purpose of drawing conclusions about HTML5? How does that work? I mean, Flash and HTML5 are made for different purposes and use cases and HTML5 is not JavaScript.
Obviously the replacement needed a combination of HTML5/CSS3/JS.
Only partly true, but I will ask again: What does reimplementing a Flash site in JS have to do with "HTML5 being ready"? How does HTML5 help you with rebuilding the same thing in _JS_? And why does that mean HTML5 is ready? Ready for what?
It still doesn't connect. You can use JS to manipulate an SVG and animate it. You could theoretically just move absolutely positioned colored divs around ... Or you could draw things on a canvas. Does that mean HTML5 "is ready" or "not ready"? It has got nothing to do with it. But yaaay! Lets go! Downvote a comment, which points out a flaw in logic!
Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Obviously the replacement needed a combination of HTML5/CSS3/JS.
Only partly true, but I will ask again: What does reimplementing a Flash site in JS have to do with "HTML5 being ready"? How does HTML5 help you with rebuilding the same thing in _JS_? And why does that mean HTML5 is ready? Ready for what? It still doesn't connect. You can use JS to manipulate an SVG and animate it. You could theoretically just move absolutely positioned colored divs around ... Or you could draw thin…
You are not being downvoted because you point out logical flaws, you are being downvoted because you don’t contribute to the topic.
Are you not aware of the discussion about HTML5 versus Flash, or do you just disagree with using HTML5 as an umbrella term here? Even the Wikipedia article [0] about HTML5 has a section on Flash, discussing features such as sound, video, graphics and interactive elements. With "HTML5 being ready" I believe OP is referring to it being a viable alternative to Flash. There is a famous quote where Steve Jobs said that Flash is no longer needed, because there are viable alternatives to the features it provided – HTML5 among others.
[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5#"Thoughts_on_Flash"
Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
I googled Peter K Joneleit after your description of him in the README and I was curious if you were just having a bit of fun or if he was involved in defining these web standards. Hooooo boy I was not prepared for his Twitter, it is wild
As soon as I saw his handle is literally "GodSend14" I knew I was in for a nice ride.
Eccentric like the late https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TempleOS creator
Re: A Flash Player emulator written in Rust
#80Ok, funny story about ruffle: Years ago in 2012 some co-workers stumbled on the greatest website ever: http://www.novalight.net/NOVALIGHT.html (takes a while to load now) To prove that HTML5/CSS3 was finally ready, I started a side project to recreate it in JS: https://github.com/jtwaleson/NovaLight-Challenge . I never got far and I don't know if that means I never finish side projects or if Flash is officially super…
So wait, you tried to rebuild a flash website in javascript for the purpose of drawing conclusions about HTML5? How does that work? I mean, Flash and HTML5 are made for different purposes and use cases and HTML5 is not JavaScript.
https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/introduction.html#is-...?
> the term "HTML5" is widely used as a buzzword to refer to modern web technologies
This is because HTML5 includes elements like canvas, which is useless without JavaScript, but JavaScript would also be much less useful in the browser without canvas. So "HTML5" is a useful shorthand for what is made possible with HTML5-level browsers https://www.w3.org/TR/2014/REC-html5-20141028/scripting-1.ht...
Also this is post-HTML5 (HTML is now a living spec without version numbers), but the HTML standard now actually does include a bunch of JavaScript API specs, such as web workers https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/workers.html#introduc...