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How much do you think their aws bill was per month for hundreds of servers? Their traffic bill alone was probably worth it already. Don’t contract this work to ibm or deloitte or something and you’ll be fine
I'm not talking about cost. I'm saying that surviving deplatforming is much more difficult than armchair orange website architects seem to acknowledge.
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That is so typical. My experience with Discord: I need to login to my account to be able to delete it, except what if I cannot log into it?! At first they disabled it, then I e-mailed them requesting them to delete my account, but all they did was a soft-delete, of course. All of the private messages are still there, etc. Even if I were to delete my account myself, it would still leave all my messages intact. I guess…
Who owns the message? The sender or receiver? That is a question that bugs me once in a while.
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FWIW, I recently found out that AirBnB now requires government id to be shared as verification after not having logged into AirBnB since 2014. I tried to delete my account but the option is not available or may be hidden behind the forced verification requirement.
That is so typical. My experience with Discord: I need to login to my account to be able to delete it, except what if I cannot log into it?! At first they disabled it, then I e-mailed them requesting them to delete my account, but all they did was a soft-delete, of course. All of the private messages are still there, etc. Even if I were to delete my account myself, it would still leave all my messages intact. I guess…
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Parler was never a "free speech" platform. This was always a lie, they heavily moderated their content. I've always felt like Parler was just a lazy attempt to make some cash by pulling some users away from Twitter claiming they could do what they want, it was never more or less than that. I'm interested in knowing how you think a real "free speech" platform can actually work, however. We have message boards that do…
> I'm interested in knowing how you think a real "free speech" platform can actually work, however. Let me give this a shot. There are two types of content that need to be removed: (1) spammy content that readers themselves don't want to see, and (2) illegal content that society doesn't want anybody to see. I think these two need to be addressed separately. Illegal content includes copyright infringement, violations…
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I always thought removing the sender identification was a good middle ground. i.e. John Does said, "Hello world" -> [Removed] said, "Hello world"
True, but the content of the message could contain identifying information. This is not an easy issue to solve.
If I reveal I'm a criminal is it any different? What If it's 10 years later and I've served my sentence? Does it matter if the crime is morally wrong or even illegal where you live?
What it it's personal but not criminal, say I've come out as gay or a republican or a democrat or a communist.
I think we would be foolish to rely on greater privacy than is provided by terms and conditions and logically we will only acquire more favorable terms by requiring them in law. You gave a good example When you discussed being unable to delete data pertaining to your account.
I think on a one to one message your recipient has a right to a record of what you actually said I don't think allowing one side to edit it after the fact facilitates honest conversations nor does it much protect the person who reveals sensitive information to do so. You can already attest to what they revealed or keep a screenshot.
I think on a many to many forum like this thread that people ought to be able to control what new users see but people who already received the initial version have a right to the information imparted to them.
Basically I view a message as belonging to everyone who received it and the service ought to retain it as long as one person whom it belongs to wants to keep it.
I can see good reason to selectively remove content that is illegal say child or revenge porn but I feel like further restrictions ought to fall on the ethical reasoning of the receiver not technology to answer the complex moral implications.
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> I wonder if the reason why they turn into toxic cesspools is precisely because the only people who use free speech platforms are the people who were kicked off the others You don't have to wonder, we've seen this time and time again with virtually every open community. Without tireless moderation, the swamp grows. In other words, the majority of people who use free speech platforms have already answered your questi…
You're not actually answering the question. Suppose that the dominant platforms (e.g. Facebook) are not free speech platforms. They boot off a hundred thousand people. 10% of them actually deserved it and are militant jackasses who ruin everything. Now someone else creates a "free speech" platform. Everybody is allowed in. Well, 80% of the initial users are going to be a subset of the ones who got kicked off of the i…
Arguably FaceBook is too.
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Piratebay is just hosting the magnet links, right? That's not infringing copyright IIRC.
Yes I believe they now only host magnet links. I believe they did used to have .torrent files. I am not sure if .torrent files actually make a huge difference in copyright though do they? Aren't they still almost the same as a magnet link just essentially a different format? I believe they switched to only magnet links as it made it easier for them to be mirrored and switch around providers to hide from authorities w…
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True, but the content of the message could contain identifying information. This is not an easy issue to solve.
Does the fact that I can change or delete this comment mean you, or hacker news have less right to it? If I delete it are you doing anything wrong by keeping a screenshot or even sharing it? If I reveal I'm a criminal is it any different? What If it's 10 years later and I've served my sentence? Does it matter if the crime is morally wrong or even illegal where you live? What it it's personal but not criminal, say I'v…
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I'm OK with this. Private messages have shared ownership. You weren't sending them to yourself. Yes, there might be identifying information in the content of the messages. Yes, in the majority of cases it wouldn't make a difference. In some minority of cases, though, they would. Abusive ex sending you messages over discord? Yeah, those might be evidence especially when both parties are saying different things. This i…
Well, I thought they would delete them after having requested it, but they did not. In any case, there is a feature on Discord: I can delete messages (for everyone). So as long as I can log in to Discord, I can delete messages. I doubt they actually get deleted though, probably just changes its visibility, but in any case... why would not they do that if I could do it anyway were I to be able to log in?
They are actually deleted, unlike many other platforms. If not, the problem described here would not arise in the first place: https://blog.discord.com/how-discord-stores-billions-of-mess...