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Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

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> which China says exist for the "re-education" of the Uighurs and other minorities. Even China does not deny the camps. The disagreement almost seems to depend on whether "re-education" is considered sinister. In the West? Obviously. In China? That is apparently a normal thing to admit to doing.

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It's probably that whole "dumb" humanistic concept of choosing your own path in life rather than the government choosing it for you.

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I don't understand how so many countries would not ban together to stand up to China. Why won't they do it? This literally seems like a modern day concentration camp without the death.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership TPP was a big attempt by the US political establishment to economically isolate China with most of Asia. Unfortunately, because it was also designed to bypass the US voter, it was not very popular.

Yeah I'm hoping the new administration will work towards rejoining, I got into lots of heated debates about it with friends when it was a part of Obama's administration.

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I've posted this a lot, but I think it's important for those who claim Uyghur camps are some sort of Western propaganda. This site documents primary source evidence of victims in Xinjiang. Testimonies from families and friends, court documents, photos, etc. Information on specific camps and seeing victims by city/village is newly available. What's happening there is horrible and consists of many human rights violatio…

What can actually be done against a dictator like Xi Jinping who has absolute power besides using military force? He doesn't care at all about the bad reputation or sanctions or anything else like that.

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> it doesn't seem to bother too many people. Articles like this making the news says otherwise. It's hard to defend the CCP when they imprison people for no other reason than having a culture that's different from the CCP.

It's good to see articles, but they don't amount to much if it doesn't actually change things. The impression I get is that China is important enough to the economic bottom-line that nobody, whether Apple or Hollywood, will go for a substantial response.

Apathy gets us nowhere. Discussion through articles amounts to awareness which can lead to change. Change is possible and may not happen overnight or from one article.

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I say this as potentially the world's biggest disliker of communism... this really has nothing to do with communism.

Sure it does. Communism empowers tyrants who abuse the people. Every time.

Power empowers, what name one chooses to name their regime is largely irrelevant.

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Trust everything you read on the Internet, sure.

Why don't you petition the PRC government to open up the area to trustworthy reporters and to cease reprisals against locals who speak to them? You claim you're Chinese, so that's your right per Article 41 of the constitution. Pretty much anyone out of Xinjiang who criticizes the government has increased credibility because of all the attempts to suppress information. If you think this group has issues, your bitching…

Based on past records, Chinese government have no reason to trust those journalists (that they are not influenced by CIA).

Your point of view is that the western world represents absolute justice, and you can judge us based on your value system, this is not the case, at least from our viewpoint.

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> I am surprised that the Chinese government so openly admits to behavior much of the rest of the world finds horrifying. They don't admit it, they whitewash atrocities by saying the camps are for "re-education".

Which, if you look at the history of "re-education", is still horrifying.

Anyone sold by the "re-education" line is not looking at the history.

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It is sinister because re-education camp is a euphemism for concentration camp.

This is like kindergarten arguments.

You: You have concentration camp! you're evil! China: No we have re-education camp. You: Ha, busted, you admit the camp existed, and re-education camp is concentration camp.

I'm out.

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hard to believe the police released them AND handed back their passports after all these horrible things

Do you mean it's hard to believe as in you don't think it's true or hard to belive as in jeez, the police really have some balls on them for doing that .

I like your way of thinking.

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