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Forever, I assume.
Yeah, if you’re sick or near sick people, it’s probably a good idea. It’s standard practice in Asia. Here’s a Taiwanese children’s show from three years ago encouraging mask wearing: https://youtu.be/qXaD871hXnc?t=18s
Scientists fear pandemic's 'hyper hygiene' could have long-term health impacts
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With working vaccines its the matter of when not if. What makes you think otherwise?
What makes you think that a vaccine will eradicate this disease? We have vaccines for many diseases that still exist today - influenza, varicella, etc. Even polio has proved tricky to globally eradicate, and vaccines for this have been in existence for over 50 years. The diseases that have been essentially eradicated, such as smallpox, is something that does not require vaccination on a continual/annual basis. Covid…
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Hygiene hypothesis still seems dubious to me. The notion that hygienic lifestyles can lead to a weaker immune system or microbiome is plausible, but I'd actually be pretty surprised if it translated into worse long-term outcomes like life expectancy. Being exposed to lots of pathogens can have some pretty big downsides. We're only just beginning to understand long-term COVID symptoms and it's possible we've missed lo…
Think of it this way: your body has machinery built to combat pathogens. If there are no pathogens to fight, the bar for what is considered a pathogen lowers until eventually those machines are attacking healthy tissue and can cause many issues. Allergies, Lupus, and many others are already caused by similar mechanisms, and pushing society into ever more clean states will likely lead to more issues. The only real cur…
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In some peoples mind even questioning or being skeptical of many of the more extreme covid claims and actions is extremely dangerous. According to some “experts” we shouldn’t be allowed to research covid, look at public covid data sets, or even think very hard about it. We should, instead, have almost complete blind faith in a handful of “experts” and just roll over and do whatever they recommend. A ton of our action…
To be fair, some random persons datapoint wrangling can (and usually does) have large number of eyeballs than a life long trained professional with a PhD. While the data should be public and object to scrutiny (ideally by other experts in scientific community), how much insight would untrained people actually get? Apart from alternative facts and "just a flu". Many popular blog posts and opinions were proven to be fl…
the idea that the information in raw form that the professionals use is somehow not of public utility needs to go away. this is part one of a double punch the next being the discovery that while data was sequestered, the general populus was lied to about it. Not that that IS what is happening here, but getting caught out doing that is beyond discrediting.
its not good policy to build an abberant world view among your population that will culminate in being crushed by reality, this is why people panic in the first place, and the solution seems to be keep cycling that way so that panic is assauged by building another alternate belief that looks comfortable. its like the trope where someone is hiding/slash disposing of the body while having a conversation accross the house designed to prevent someone walking in before its all hidden away.
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#135There's a difference between being exposed to dirt and being exposed to viral diseases, though. Playing outside in the leaves will likely trigger healthy immune responses. Contracting COVID-19 may lead to long term health issues.
One of the known things is that babies who get seriously sick somewhere in their first year have a better immune system for life. So yes, failing to be exposed to viral diseases can be bad for you.
1. 28 year olds, who were exposed to a prior influenza pandemic during an early age window, disproportionately died during the 1918 pandemic. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-actuarial-jo...
2. Measles destroys prior immune memory. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-03324-7
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#137Let’s prove the hygiene hypothesis first, before using that “knowledge” to investigate other problems.
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#138I find it odd to see people applying hand sanitizer even though they've just left home and are visiting one place. Then you see people constantly applying hand sanitizer when entering shopping complexes and visiting various stores.
Personally, I try to limit my use of hand sanitizer because I have sensitive skin. Also I'm in Australia where we don't have major outbreaks right now.
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It's frightening how much censorship there is around non-consensual views on covid. Sure there are a few nutters blaming 5g masts, but there are plenty of legitimate criticisms of the way it is currently being handled. The Great Barrington Declaration has numerous signatories from well respected scientists, however it is dismissed, without any debate and lumped alongside antivaxxers and conspiracy theorists for takin…
The great barrington declaration also doesn’t have a single scientific claim that is backed up with any research. The top HN comment of any article with more than 10 comments on it will always almost have more content and less fluff than the great barrington declaration.