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India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by srean »

dlvktrsh wrote: post #287
psingh88 wrote: post #67

Guys, you need to understand what media is showing in india is not true, as it is controlled by Govt and corporates. Media publish picture guy raising sword, but not explaining why. Media didn’t publish pictures about events that lead to. Day before govt supporters warned that they will tomorrow unless they vacate the protest site. Next day even police barricade in the view of warning , still they let govt supporters…

you can upload the image to imgur and put a link here

Psingh88 had replied with these links in a separate comment down below. I am just surfacing them here as this is a more relevant subthread

Language is Hindi.main stream media no showing this. This link shows how police let govt sponsored rioters attack sitting protesters https://twitter.com/antiitcelltask1/status/13551173784728412... This link shows before riots, govt person who is part of mob shaking hand with police before stone pelting at farmers protesting https://twitter.com/gs_atwal/status/1355103467124174849?s=21 Now they intrude inside the site where protesters are camping provoking protesters by destruction https://twitter.com/immak02/status/1355124797202595841?s=21 Police helping rioters and then pulling a farmer who come out to defend with sword And beating along with govt sponsored rioters https://twitter.com/rajbirk08499553/status/13554995166784798...

https://twitter.com/_dsbofficial/status/1355499255985790983?...

https://twitter.com/specialkbrook/status/1355446339946106881...

Police braking cctv to erase evidence https://twitter.com/gsmanes/status/1355171604896993287?s=21

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by srean »

boring_baduku wrote: post #378
aparsons wrote: post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I posted it expecting downvotes. On the surface, yes I am generalizing the country. But really - and perhaps I should have made it more clear - the reason for my disillusionment were structural/cultural issues: - Willingness to oppress people, and keep the oppressed down when you’re supposed to be helping them. Current events are very relevant to the past events. - Party-over-people politics and crippling corruption…

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Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by srean »

aparsons wrote: post #338
boring_baduku wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both the things you are talking about were perpetrated by the Congress party. The current crisis is also their gift. Why are you generalizing the country based on that? It seems you just witnessed these things but never understood why they happened and who were the perpetrators.

I posted it expecting downvotes. On the surface, yes I am generalizing the country. But really - and perhaps I should have made it more clear - the reason for my disillusionment were structural/cultural issues: - Willingness to oppress people, and keep the oppressed down when you’re supposed to be helping them. Current events are very relevant to the past events. - Party-over-people politics and crippling corruption…

The IT cell head of the current ruling party -- BJP, openly divulged the identity of a teenager rape victim. This is against the law. No charges have been brought against him. Not that this is in any way surprising because the accused belong to BJP's vote bank.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by hesarenu »

webmobdev wrote: post #380
hesarenu wrote: post #340

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The law does not force them to sell to anywone. Farmers can sell directly to people.

You talk as if selling directly is so easy - how will they do that without a middle-man for distribution? It's not like every neighbourhood in India has a farm next door! And the farmers can't afford to waste time selling a few kilos to many, when they produce 100's of kilos of produce! What Modi's government has done is to cleverly replace the brokers with corporates as the middle-man, in the guise of "reforms".

Middle men are still there. They can still sell in mandis. It's not closed.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by codecrusade »

wtmt wrote: post #172

If you’re someone outside India, please write to your representatives (or organize something) on matters like Internet access being cut off. We live in an age where this can be a matter of life and death. It is standard practice in India to cut off Internet access in places where there are riots or riots expected to happen or for some nebulous “national security” concern. In fact, India tops the list of countries wit…

Fake news being spread on India by Pakistani Agents.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by boruto »

windex wrote: post #163
Thorrez wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're saying that people are creating brand new HN accounts to support the Indian government? I don't see that. I looked at all the comments by green accounts in this thread: Pro Indian government: 1 comment, 1 account Anti Indian government: 8 comments, 4 accounts Unknown: 2 comments, 1 account

I am saying that this is the trend on all threads that are critical of the Indian government and calls out its propaganda. It's either that or down votes. It is difficult to call out bad behavior by government.

Downvotes require 500 karma. One cannot create a account and do it.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by webmobdev »

hesarenu wrote: post #384
webmobdev wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You talk as if selling directly is so easy - how will they do that without a middle-man for distribution? It's not like every neighbourhood in India has a farm next door! And the farmers can't afford to waste time selling a few kilos to many, when they produce 100's of kilos of produce! What Modi's government has done is to cleverly replace the brokers with corporates as the middle-man, in the guise of "reforms".

Middle men are still there. They can still sell in mandis. It's not closed.

The buyers will now prefer the "contract farming" route to procurement, as the new farm laws has tilted the power in their favour. With the broker (and dismantling of the regulated marketplace) out of the picture, the corporates can now take even more advantage of the farmers. (Note that the brokers also manipulated the market on behalf of the corporates earlier, but eliminating them is now more favourable for them as they have managed to bribe the government to write the laws in their favour).

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by boruto »

davchana wrote: post #166
eklavya wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, police will control a rioting mob anyway they can. Maybe don’t brandish swords, try to run over public and police and attack people in your peaceful protest?

The Godi media you are watching does not show the Delhi police trampling over Tiranga, slashing tires, shooting tear gas over a distance of less than 20 feet, blocking the route agreed upon.

Can you show me a video of slashing tires?

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by boruto »

hesarenu wrote: post #336
rishav_sharan wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From RSSs role in the MK Gandhi's assassination, Gujrat's riots, to the Samjhauta Express bombings, Ajmer Dargah attacks, to the cow vigilatelism, beating up couples at valentine's day - the list is pretty long to consider RSS as Religious terrorists.

So if some members of a group were involved in these activities do you blame the whole group? Are you consistent with you beliefs on labeling groups?

Being labeled a fascist has no meaning these days. If someone does not agree with your opinion you are a fascist :)

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by boruto »

psingh88 wrote: post #90
actuator wrote: post #5

Sadly as much as I hate seeing essential communication links cut, though I don't have any data I am assuming a lot of people are going to buy in the public safety angle. It is not like the Indian state hasn't used that line of reasoning before for even bans lasting more than a year. Reading through the linked article on the violence related to the same protests that happened few days back reminded me of some tweets I…

Language is Hindi.main stream media no showing this. This link shows how police let govt sponsored rioters attack sitting protesters https://twitter.com/antiitcelltask1/status/13551173784728412... This link shows before roits, govt person who is part of mob shaking hand with police before stone pelting at farmers protesting https://twitter.com/gs_atwal/status/1355103467124174849?s=21 Now they intrude inside the site…

https://www.altnews.in/old-video-shows-police-breaking-cctv-...

Police breaking cctv is an old footage as per a reputed left wing news watcher.

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