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India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by srean »

hesarenu wrote: post #370
srean wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So you just called a million Hindus terrorists. Yeah keep spreading lies if it helps. It really shows you and those that you support in revealing light. This is very good because these chats and their logic is public and for all to see and make their own judgements. Thanks for making my job easier. Pray enlighten me where I have been inconsistent without shoving your words on my mouth, and where I have called a mil…

This is very good because these chats and their logic is public and for all to see and make their own judgements. Thanks for making my job easier. - that goes either way. All can see that you are trying to diverge the conversation instead of answering. You refusal to answer the question indicates that you agree with it. Else its a simple answer. Let me ask myself that question. Do you consider a group of people a ter…

Which question have I refused to answer ? I made quite clear where I stand as far as the RSS or the farmer protests are concerned. I will say that yet again, RSS has over its history been a silent approver of acts of violence refusing to distance itself from such acts. The farmer protests had sections, possibly govt sponsored, who indulged in violence. The farmer protest bodies have condemned these harshly and distanced themselves.

On the other hand you have not yet pointed out where I have called millions of Hindu a terrorist or where I have been inconsistent. Its you who called me names (that I consider millions of Hindu a terrorist)

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

davchana wrote: post #360
quantgenius wrote: post #355

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40% + (35% * 60%) = 57.5% > 50%. Hence a majority. It's simple math.

As on 1990s, Jammu & Kashmir Displaced Hindus = 6 Lakh [1] Population = 78 Lakh [2] Percentage: 7.69% Sources: [1] Wikipedia Exodus of Hindus https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_of_Kashmiri_Hindus [2] Wikipedia Historical Population of Kashmir, estimated in 1991 through religious organisations https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jammu_and_Kashmir_(state)

what the fuck is wrong with you... https://www.thehindu.com/news/ldquo219-Kashmiri-Pandits-kill...

the hindu reports only 19 pandits were killed > A total number of 38,119 families comprising 1,42,042 Kashmiri migrants were registered with the Revenue and Relief Ministry till now.

where the fuck did you get the 6lakh figure from?

https://theprint.in/pageturner/excerpt/right-wing-exaggerate...

this even mentions this exaggerated figure

> A total of 38,119 Kashmiri Pandit families were registered with the government, of which 24,202 migrated in January 1990.

4 persons per family is how much? 6lakh? 24202*4-600000???

are this this fucking dumb?

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by davchana »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #372
davchana wrote: post #360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As on 1990s, Jammu & Kashmir Displaced Hindus = 6 Lakh [1] Population = 78 Lakh [2] Percentage: 7.69% Sources: [1] Wikipedia Exodus of Hindus https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_of_Kashmiri_Hindus [2] Wikipedia Historical Population of Kashmir, estimated in 1991 through religious organisations https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jammu_and_Kashmir_(state)

what the fuck is wrong with you... https://www.thehindu.com/news/ldquo219-Kashmiri-Pandits-kill... the hindu reports only 19 pandits were killed > A total number of 38,119 families comprising 1,42,042 Kashmiri migrants were registered with the Revenue and Relief Ministry till now. where the fuck did you get the 6lakh figure from? https://theprint.in/pageturner/excerpt/right-wing-exaggerate... this even mentions this…

No worries, I know more swear words you ***†!! Read, learn to read. The sources are in my post.

I just wanted to be safe & took the highest from the range posted on Wikipedia. 5,98,000 rounded to 6 Lakh.

& Real the originals posts, the other guy is saying some 50% something people migrated. I was proving it's AT MOST only 7% you mf¥¥ker.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by pankajdoharey »

bythckr wrote: post #234
flik wrote: post #230

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You missed to mention towers destroyed is only of Jio (primary beneficiary of these laws is parent company Reliance)

You know very well that not all companies have their own tower. The towers are shared.

Nope Reliance has dedicated towers they dont share towers.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by [deleted] »

srean wrote: post #344
hesarenu wrote: post #336

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So if some members of a group were involved in these activities do you blame the whole group? Are you consistent with you beliefs on labeling groups?

If the government took action against these guys as opposed to covert support and encouragement you would have a point. How many public lynchers have been convicted ? (Its a rhetorical question) Why has the Modi government passed orders not to record lynching related deaths ? (again a rhetorical question) https://indianexpress.com/article/india/ncrb-leaves-out-data... May be you should take your lecture to the govern…

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Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by hesarenu »

srean wrote: post #371
hesarenu wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is very good because these chats and their logic is public and for all to see and make their own judgements. Thanks for making my job easier. - that goes either way. All can see that you are trying to diverge the conversation instead of answering. You refusal to answer the question indicates that you agree with it. Else its a simple answer. Let me ask myself that question. Do you consider a group of people a ter…

Which question have I refused to answer ? I made quite clear where I stand as far as the RSS or the farmer protests are concerned. I will say that yet again, RSS has over its history been a silent approver of acts of violence refusing to distance itself from such acts. The farmer protests had sections, possibly govt sponsored, who indulged in violence. The farmer protest bodies have condemned these harshly and distan…

Too deep. I don't like deep comments since it usually means its going nowhere. But assuming you are sincere in your effort to answer the question(Which question I have refused to answer ? I made quite clear where I stand as far as the RSS or the farmer protests are concerned.).

So once again, OP(not you unless you are alt!) said that RSS are religious terrorists because of their activities. Now as as i know they have not denoted a bomb which killed hundreds. But maybe the term applies because of some of their other activities like lynching(Though this happens to Hindus as well, do we then consider the other party terrorist. No answer needed. There would hundreds of comments while you divert away from answering :)

Here goes. One last hurrah

So do i label group of people as terrorists because of some of its members. NO.

For you. You can fill in the blanks.

So do i label group of people as terrorists because of some of its members. __.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by bobobob420 »

anaganisk wrote: post #160
bobobob420 wrote: post #63

Just don’t bother trying to understand Indian politics, especially if are living outside the country. It is a mess beyond any understanding and just a waste of time.

I was about to write a lengthy rant on why others must read it, but then realised yes, there is no point. Majority of people who support BJP, are much more in propaganda than trump supporters. They're past denial, they literally build up stories of master strokes, tho all of them were mega failures. We have a PM who is afraid of press conferences, who only speaks on his own air time. Never takes questions. I sometime…

I support modi ;)

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Post by boring_baduku »

aparsons wrote: post #338
boring_baduku wrote: post #308

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Both the things you are talking about were perpetrated by the Congress party. The current crisis is also their gift. Why are you generalizing the country based on that? It seems you just witnessed these things but never understood why they happened and who were the perpetrators.

I posted it expecting downvotes. On the surface, yes I am generalizing the country. But really - and perhaps I should have made it more clear - the reason for my disillusionment were structural/cultural issues: - Willingness to oppress people, and keep the oppressed down when you’re supposed to be helping them. Current events are very relevant to the past events. - Party-over-people politics and crippling corruption…

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Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by boring_baduku »

srean wrote: post #367
boring_baduku wrote: post #304

HN seems to be promoting only anti-India narratives these days. One of the outrageous comments is asking US persons to get involved in this. This is a direct attack on the sovereignty of India. Anyone questioning this line of thinking is getting flagged. The general consensus seems to be that the Western powers are paragons of justice who can dictate what other countries (note that India is a democracy. Most of these…

> HN is now nothing more than an echo chamber that seems to promote only one kind of narrative Yeah the correct and the logically sound kind :) For everything else there are government cosy media channels

Yeah sure. You can choose to believe whatever you want.

Re: India protests: Internet cut to hunger-striking farmers in Delhi

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Post by webmobdev »

hesarenu wrote: post #340
webmobdev wrote: post #104

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You have totally bought the government misinformation on the protest when you say: > It's also true that existing power nexus like these farmer brokers who are spearheading the protest. No. These protests are organised by the opposition political parties of India through the farm unions they run or are affiliated with, not by brokers. And they are happening to address the legitimate grievances of the farmers. Farming…

The law does not force them to sell to anywone. Farmers can sell directly to people.

You talk as if selling directly is so easy - how will they do that without a middle-man for distribution? It's not like every neighbourhood in India has a farm next door! And the farmers can't afford to waste time selling a few kilos to many, when they produce 100's of kilos of produce!

What Modi's government has done is to cleverly replace the brokers with corporates as the middle-man, in the guise of "reforms".

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