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I agree. Joe Biden should be taken off the air for allowing 4000 Americans to die from COVID every day and countless others to be blown up by the military that he commands.
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#42Um this is the CWA i.e. local to the USA not the Global alliance which is UNI - the former President is Friend. Realistically AWU has to partner with another union initially standing up a brand new stand alone union with all the costs and difficulties is not practicable.
What kind of costs and difficulties? Filing paperwork isn't terribly expensive, and with an average member wage 5-10x higher than the median wage in the US the union should hit above its weight class. A larger union is likely to bring its own set of office politics and costs.
Just remaining within the absolute letter of the law is complex and panties for failure can be heavy - I know I have dealt with this aspect in the UK.
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#43The fall out between CWA and the employees was predictable, but faster than I would have guessed. I don’t understand why they teamed up with CWA in the first place. What possible alignment of incentives were they hoping for? What were they thinking?
Who else would they work with in the USA? - as far as I know the civil service unions in the USA don't have members in the private sector.
A few googlers teaming up can presumably afford to pay some labor lawyers to draw up the paperwork and guide them through the process. It'd also leave googlers' more in control of their destiny than quickly becoming a franchise of a larger union.
With the hundreds of members they now have, they could cover a few staff and/or consultants. Maybe even with some sort of loan to the union for spin-up costs that could be repaid from future dues if successful?
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#44The fall out between CWA and the employees was predictable, but faster than I would have guessed. I don’t understand why they teamed up with CWA in the first place. What possible alignment of incentives were they hoping for? What were they thinking?
Who else would they work with in the USA? - as far as I know the civil service unions in the USA don't have members in the private sector.
Why work with any of them?
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Keep in mind the very same people supported organizations like antifa and blm who killed or got killed a lot more than 5 people over the past few years...
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How would that even be possible? I want to know the logistics of your theory of the 10s of thousands of people who were in DC that day, all being funneled into a single building
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Keep in mind the very same people supported organizations like antifa and blm who killed or got killed a lot more than 5 people over the past few years...
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Second, there wasn't just one Capitol Protest. So no, you're wrong.
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I agree. Joe Biden should be taken off the air for allowing 4000 Americans to die from COVID every day and countless others to be blown up by the military that he commands.
In seriousness, if we had this as a norm (and not just a bludgeon for whatever politician we don't like), we'd be in a better place as a society. Obama has admitted that he continued the drone strikes because he couldn't afford to look soft on terrorism as a Democrat, for instance. No law compelled him to, just the court of public opinion. How would we get to the point where, instead, he couldn't afford to look excit…
https://covid19.healthdata.org/sweden?view=total-deaths&tab=...
I’m not sure why Tegnell gets so much hate for doing a softer economic shutdown, and getting similar results as more draconian approaches. As a bonus, projections say they’ll hit herd immunity sooner than many countries (assuming vaccine rollouts).
I guess, as you point out, history is written by the victorious, and Sweden’s minority approach will always be backed by a minority political voice.
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#48It's important to choose allies carefully. If you opportunistically work with an individual who's more invested in making scenes and silly sloganeering than using good judgment to accomplish meaningful change, you shouldn't be surprised when it turns out she's not much of a team player. Can't feel too bad for the CWA here.
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#50This seems... exaggerated and not particularly newsworthy, like the journalist's trying to make a big story out of something tiny: > In a statement, AWU executive council member Auni Ahsan said: “We want to honor the concerns that have been raised, but our primary focus as a union isn’t affiliation or disaffiliation.” > After the article came out, however, multiple AWU members told The Verge they were blindsided by t…
That sounds very much like condescendingly downplaying the seriousness of affiliation as something they should not be worrying about, when in fact it is something that the members are concerned about.