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Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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All web browsers that are not Chrome, beware. You're next.

I wonder why this hasn't been escalated to an anti-trust case yet.

They don't bust trusts anymore, but FAANG sure is determined to bust all our trust in them.

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It allows only free and open source apps, which might be a no-go for some.

They allow adding alternate repositories, but the ones I've come across have all also only allowed FOSS apps. I wonder if it's a policy any repo has to follow or if it's possible for someone to create a non-FOSS repo too.

Even when you can use a non-free repo, that still leaves the question of payment. Because most who distribute nonfree apps, want money first. I doubt this is compatible with F-Droids architecture.

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I don't know what to say. For weeks people were roaming the streets, smashing windows, cars, beating people up, etc. ???

The Capitol is a literal building in Washington DC, which is the seat of the United States legislative. Even if it _was_ true that "people were roaming the streets smashing windows" when Trump was elected, no one was storming the Capitol building, which is why no one wrote anything about people storming the Capitol...

Even if it _was_ true?

Do you live in a cave? Did you also miss all of the other "demonstration"? Like just recently a bunch of groups were rioting and smashed and looted every single shop in block after block in a whole bunch of locations?

One side smashes things up for weeks all over the country and "oh they're activists and protesters" and another groups does barely any damage in one location for a day and they're "storming the capitol"?

I don't think you are speaking in good faith.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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So we got notified by the developer console at 21:45 UTC that the app had been suspended, but still haven’t had an email to explain why - it’s 02:24 now. Our assumption that this is due to someone reporting abusive content in Matrix to Google, and Element catching the blame — although this is currently speculation. To be clear: Element is a Matrix client just as Chrome is a Web browser, and just as it’s possible to v…

Deplatforming is the story of the year. If we're not careful, they'll come for our individual rights next. Be it companies or the government. We need to remain vigilant and develop distributed platforms. We also need to demand that the government takes control away from corporate interests. This shouldn't happen.

Do not paint deplatforming as unequivocally bad thing.

Most decentralized platforms (mastodon, IPFS, XMPP, Matrix...) have mechanisms to block and defederate unwanted accounts/contents/servers: racism and hate speech, CP, spam, malware

Many people don't want government-driven censorship but are very happy with community-driven policies and guidelines.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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We received a generic update at 05:31 UTC confirming that the app had been suspended due to abusive content (Sexual Content and Profanity: https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answ... ); we're following up to explain how Matrix and Element works and get this resolved.

Could this be related to all the WSB shenanigans going on? Banning their chat groups makes them move to another, repeat?

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We tried. - The FirefoxOS team. - The Jolia team. - The UbuntuPhone team. - ...

I'm optimistic that PinePhone may finally be the one to do it, at least to an extent that it's usable if you're willing to hack on it.

It probably won't. I love my Pinephone just like I love desktop Linux, and both are great choices for people who keep up with tech, but neither will reach more than a few percentage points of marketshare without a $100m+ marketing push. They would need the help of some tech philanthropist to make it to the mainstream.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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Doing this just a week before FOSDEM [1], a very large conference that will run online using Matrix, is scandalous. https://fosdem.org/2021/

This is far from ideal, but someone attending FOSDEM is surely able to download an .apk from official site of Element and install it?

People always mention a workaround when this kind of stuff happens, but censorship can be heavily effective just by reducing access.

If a medium sized business is looking at communication platforms, and element is suddenly not available on the play store, maybe they’ll just Google’s offering instead.

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Maybe their quality of life is increased by not having to spend part of their life (and possibly money - I can't think of a free Gmail alternative that's not as bad as Gmail's practices) searching for services that are at least as good as what they currently use?

> I can't think of a free Gmail alternative that's not as bad as Gmail's practices Protonmail comes to mind: https://protonmail.com/

I like the company, but their email service is nowhere close to being a GMail alternative. A few things that are lacking -

1. Using standard IMAP/POP is only available for Paid users and only on the desktop. Not Mobile.

2. Conversation view is not implemented on their mobile clients. It has been over 5 years - https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/284483-feedback/sugg...

3. Their conversation view on the desktop groups messages based on the sender and not always the subject. It results in old conversations being grouped together.

They are working on all these issues, but till then, my productivity was impacted a lot by switching.

Re: Element (Matrix chat app) suspended from the Google Play Store

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I wonder why this hasn't been escalated to an anti-trust case yet.

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Let me get this straight - you're saying "true libertarians" are people who decide to stop caring about advancing libertarian causes because someone else exercised their right of free speech, and now cheer for the loss of liberty of people they don't like?
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