Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store • Hacker News Board

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by the_arun » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 9:12 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #401

dang wrote: post #276

For pointers to other vertices of this story graph, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25933543 . The current thread is paginated like all the other big threads (to spare our poor server—yes, we're working on it). If you want to see all the comments you'll need to click through the More links at the bottom, or like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25947697&p=2 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2594…

(This is a stub reply so I can collapse the various comments responding to this, so as not to distract too much from the topic at hand. (Sorry, non-JS users.))

Where can I find HN backend architecture?

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by bananabreakfast » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 9:13 PM UTC

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #228

alangibson wrote: post #80

One of the good things I see coming out of Robinhood blocking trading, Twitter and Reddit booting problematic users, Parler getting vaporized, etc. is a sudden realization amongst people of just how easily major parts of their lives can be instantly turned off by intermediaries. My hope is that this will drive a reformist movement around digital rights (speech, commerce, etc.) As well as a movement from platforms to…

> My hope is that this will drive a reformist movement around digital rights (speech, commerce, etc.) As well as a movement from platforms to protocols. I don’t have much hope for this, mainly because being the owner of a platform is much more profitable than being one of many protocol end points. Look at git. It is hard to think of a more open protocol, and yet GitHub absolutely dominates and it is a big deal if the…

You are using the term "deplatform" completely wrong.

None of the things you mention are platforms.

Mail is not a platform. Roads are not a platform. Electricity, water and gas are not platforms.

These are all examples of point to point connection. None of them allow you to reach millions of people unfederated.

If you start sending out illegal hate mail to millions of people, you bet you'll be "deplatformed" by the USPS. They will cut off your account and probably press charges.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by x3iv130f » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 9:13 PM UTC

worker767424 wrote: post #202

alangibson wrote: post #80

One of the good things I see coming out of Robinhood blocking trading, Twitter and Reddit booting problematic users, Parler getting vaporized, etc. is a sudden realization amongst people of just how easily major parts of their lives can be instantly turned off by intermediaries. My hope is that this will drive a reformist movement around digital rights (speech, commerce, etc.) As well as a movement from platforms to…

Throwing this out there, too: assorted government restrictions and lockdowns imposed by regional public health officials. The early ones were more justified because we knew less, but as the pandemic drug on, the burden of proof justifying closures needed to increase, and legislators needed to step up and legitimize the policies. It's like how the president can wage war for 90 days, but then has to get approval from c…

The closures were tied to ICU overflow capacity which seems a reasonable policy to me.

Unfortunately what and how things were closed seemed haphazard and not entirely justified or communicated effectively.

There should have been more contact tracing and a focus to close only areas prone to spreading Covid-19.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by Zigurd » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 9:14 PM UTC

alangibson wrote: post #80

One of the good things I see coming out of Robinhood blocking trading, Twitter and Reddit booting problematic users, Parler getting vaporized, etc. is a sudden realization amongst people of just how easily major parts of their lives can be instantly turned off by intermediaries. My hope is that this will drive a reformist movement around digital rights (speech, commerce, etc.) As well as a movement from platforms to…

This isn't All One Thing. It isn't even all one thing inside the Robin Hood/Gamestop thing. Wall Street Bets got banned on Discord for calls to violent action, on the one hand, and their bets got throttled on Robin Hood because Robin Hood's data customers, who are legal-ishly front-running Robin Hood users, do not like what Robin Hood users are legal-ishly doing.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by shrimpx » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 9:14 PM UTC

anm89 wrote: post #23

When retail in traders en masse decide that a trading platform is impinging upon their rights, the SEC should be obligated to open an investigation. Isn't this pretty much a major component of their intended purpose?

I have a bit of knowledge from friends who work in fintech, and the sentiment among fintech companies seems to be that SEC doesn't matter. The fine is small and comes way too late. You can simply account for an approximate future fine and move forward with your shady business.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by gameswithgo » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 9:14 PM UTC

thisiscorrect wrote: post #252

daenz wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the risk of sounding like an "I told you so" type of person, it is frustrating to speak out and see others speak out about future consequences of these kinds of actions, only to be drowned out by people liberally applying the slippery slope fallacy argument.

I've never understood how a slippery slope argument is a fallacy, let alone a logical fallacy (like false syllogism or no true scotsman). The idea is essentially looking at current trends and extrapolating into the future. No prediction is necessarily correct, but it's not necessarily wrong either.

"Slippery Slope" can be and is used to object to absolutely any action at all.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by pelasaco » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 9:16 PM UTC

today early in the morning, they had a 4.8 rating https://twitter.com/VincentMarcus/status/1354812744738828294...

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by navait » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 9:17 PM UTC

m-chrzan wrote: post #257

alangibson wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking more about being able to trade online, not GME specifically. TBH 'protocols not platforms' has become kind of a slogan lately, but history doesn't make it look too promising. Email is a protocol, but it has largely been dominated by Google. A really compelling product can capture a protocol.

Could it be that people are just so used to platforms, that even in the case of the email protocol, they prefer to jump onto the Gmail platform that abstracts away from the protocol and provides a nice, easy to use platform? If so, "protocols, not platforms" remains justified, and proponents might hope that as people get more comfortable with protocols, they will drift away not only from the Facebooks and Twitters of…

For me at least, it's the anti-spam features, and automatic sorting of mail.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by thephyber » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 9:17 PM UTC

treeman79 wrote: post #293

thephyber wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From my perspective, you just flipped the purpose of 1A. Right now you have the right to associate or disassociate with whomever you like (protected classes aside). In your altered future, the government forces churches to allow atheists and rival religions to be allowed to speak at the church, despite the desires of the owners and congregation. It would effectively be compelled association.

Nonsense. Trouble is when government gives out monopolies, or supporting monopolies they like. Government currently closed side. Government has chosen atheism as its religion. Very hostile toward other religions. Everyone pays for government school, but want to a Christian education, then you have to pay twice.

I find the monopoly issue troubling, but I don’t understand how your proposal fixes it.

Government schools aren’t atheist - they are secular. They simply aren’t allowed to teach Christianity because Jews and Muslims would have the same “I have to pay twice” complaint you mentioned. Also, what you say about Christian education is factually wrong. There are plenty of places in the USA where you can find a Christian Charter school or use school vouchers.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Post by Aperocky » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 9:18 PM UTC

I feel like this action from Robin Hood saved a lot of retail trader from self harm.

A lot of people are clinging to the hope that whatever came out of shorts covering their position being false. Whereas given the volume of the previous days it's highly likely they've already gone. Whoever goes in at this point is likely going to end up losing everything.