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Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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At the risk of sounding like an "I told you so" type of person, it is frustrating to speak out and see others speak out about future consequences of these kinds of actions, only to be drowned out by people liberally applying the slippery slope fallacy argument.

I've never understood how a slippery slope argument is a fallacy, let alone a logical fallacy (like false syllogism or no true scotsman). The idea is essentially looking at current trends and extrapolating into the future. No prediction is necessarily correct, but it's not necessarily wrong either.

A slippery slope argument assumes the maximum degenerate outcome of sliding down the slope as a certainty, that no one will be able to correct for, mitigate or reverse the slide when it starts. That's what makes it a fallacy - it's a thought terminating cliche meant to eliminate the possibility of nuance, as any middle ground is implicitly part of the slope.

Otherwise, it's just an argument that risk exists, which is obvious and uninteresting.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Most of the other brokerages (Schwab, Etrade, and TD Ameritrade, but NOT Fidelity and Vanguard according to the reports I am getting) are participating. According to the rumor on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/ClassActionRobinHood/comments/l723k... the call came from the White House.

I wouldn’t give that rumour any serious thought considering there’s literally nothing backing it up and it mostly just feeds what people already want to believe. People are pointing out in the comments that some of the details don’t line up, like him being based in the wrong city and him overhearing conversations while WFH.

For real, despite three years of QAnon people are still failing miserably to apply any incredulity about whatever they read on the internet. That it affirms their beliefs is all that matters, never mind its veracity.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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Maybe make Protecting free speech part our governments highest law. Maybe we could amend the law. Seriously. Lots of people love to dump on the constitution as old and not relevant. But it’s meant to restrict government and protect people’s freedom.

B-but what if people say mean things? :/

That's part of the Sophie's Choice. If we have private owned social media, then they will moderate according to public opinion. If we have us government run social media then we have no moderation at all because 1st amendment applies only to us government.

So is it morally allowable to discuss online? Should it be law to allow or disallow ?

Who decides what the majority of people consider to be abhorrent?

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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There should be zero stars available for scamsters. Seriously this should be an option. Why should anyone give one star to a scamming firm Robbing Hood which has colluded with their backer Citadel. They have derogatory term for Retail Investors - Dumb Money. Now the 'Dumb Money' has figured out the the hedge funds'rigged game.

Could you please review the site guidelines and stick to the rules when posting here? They include:

"Please don't fulminate."

That means please don't post comments in which indignation overwhelms information. That lowers signal/noise and escalates activation in others, which takes us away from curious conversation.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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I’m honestly very confused why people keep trying to draw a parallel between Parler and Robinhood. Beyond “big companies can do whatever they want” there really isn’t much in the way of comparison. And big companies doing what they want is something we’ve known about since around the time big companies first started to exist.

Parler (deplatforming, service) | | Discord (deplatforming, WSB) | | Robin Hood (functional ban, WSB) There similarities are not perfect, but enough to draw an analogy.

I’ll agree that there are similarities between Parler and WSB Discord issue (how much hate speech is tolerated on your platform is a decision made by your service provider, not you) but the WSB Robinhood issue is something else altogether.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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For pointers to other vertices of this story graph, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25933543.

The current thread is paginated like all the other big threads (to spare our poor server—yes, we're working on it). If you want to see all the comments you'll need to click through the More links at the bottom, or like this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25947697&p=2

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25947697&p=3

(and so on)

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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One of the good things I see coming out of Robinhood blocking trading, Twitter and Reddit booting problematic users, Parler getting vaporized, etc. is a sudden realization amongst people of just how easily major parts of their lives can be instantly turned off by intermediaries. My hope is that this will drive a reformist movement around digital rights (speech, commerce, etc.) As well as a movement from platforms to…

Robinhood was just hit with class action lawsuit over this:

The financial trading app Robinhood is been hit with a federal class action lawsuit after it restricted trades to stocks popular on the Reddit forum r/WallStreetBets, sending Redditors and app users into a meltdown.

The lawsuit, filed in the Southern District of New York on Thursday, alleges that the app “purposefully, willfully, and knowingly removing the stock ‘GME’ from its trading platform in the midst of an unprecedented stock rise, thereby deprived [sic] retail investors of the ability to invest in the open-market and manipulating the open-market.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/robinhood-hit-with-class-actio...

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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One of the good things I see coming out of Robinhood blocking trading, Twitter and Reddit booting problematic users, Parler getting vaporized, etc. is a sudden realization amongst people of just how easily major parts of their lives can be instantly turned off by intermediaries. My hope is that this will drive a reformist movement around digital rights (speech, commerce, etc.) As well as a movement from platforms to…

What is your hope for reforming the ability of a single person to keep repeating a lie and nearly causing an insurrection?

That it should be up to congress and law enforcement - people that are accountable to the public, to make these rules.

Everything about what twitter did was stupid. They let him talk for years, and then finally stopped him at the worst time. They cancelled him when there was little more damage he could do and ruined ideas of free speech neutrality and it allowed his ilk to claim censorship and it helped with making him a martyr. Just absolute stupidity.

Letting corporations deal with dangerous thought leaders is not a solution that has even the slimmest chance of working.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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One of the good things I see coming out of Robinhood blocking trading, Twitter and Reddit booting problematic users, Parler getting vaporized, etc. is a sudden realization amongst people of just how easily major parts of their lives can be instantly turned off by intermediaries. My hope is that this will drive a reformist movement around digital rights (speech, commerce, etc.) As well as a movement from platforms to…

Throwing this out there, too: assorted government restrictions and lockdowns imposed by regional public health officials. The early ones were more justified because we knew less, but as the pandemic drug on, the burden of proof justifying closures needed to increase, and legislators needed to step up and legitimize the policies. It's like how the president can wage war for 90 days, but then has to get approval from c…

Especially in states like California. My rich friends can and continue to travel. My friends in the service sector are at home collecting a meager unemployment. It doesn’t jibe well with the ethos CA proudly proclaims. They shutdown outdoor dining and even playgrounds while Costco, Amazon warehouses and Best Buy can be packed. We also know and have data that masks work but salons were closed. (A case in Texas comes to mind where a barber had covid but didn’t pass it to any of the 45 clients because they wore masks). What was way more important was good ventilation and indoor masking.

In general social psychology have to be factored in as well. Anecdotally speaking, shutting down outdoor dining pushed more people to party at home.

Re: Robinhood now has a 1-Star rating on the Google Play Store

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I actually agree with your premise, but I don't want to listen to you when you use self contradictory phrases like 'neoliberal fascists'. I imagine I'm not alone. You're getting downvoted because you sound incoherent and unhinged.

To be fair, terminology now is really confusing. I'm still trying to figure out what is anti-fascist about antifa or that really has anything to do with their existence.

> what is anti-fascist about antifa

Antifa is an anarchist direct action movement that tries to deny Fascist groups the ability to organize by basically beating the crap out of them when they try to get together.

"Fascist" isn't a synonym for "politics I don't like".

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