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Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by newswasboring »

lubujackson wrote: post #708
Ygg2 wrote: post #631

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That ain't the issue here. Many Discords use this word, but they don't get banned. Why is WSB different?

Interesting timing for the ban, I would point out.

I agree, it is indeed very curious timing. But lets apply Occam's razor here. What makes more sense?

A cabal of rich people pressuring an unrelated gaming chat company to ban a subreddit which is attempting to destroy a hedge fund?

OR

The increased popularity of WSB leads to increased scrutiny of everything associated with it and discord has a brand to protect?

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by agumonkey »

prox wrote: post #652
agumonkey wrote: post #490

Earlier quoted context omitted.

discord is filled with 'snowflakes' (apologies if that seems insulting) I'm only a sample of 1 but on IRC I never felt surrounded by trigger happy mods. on discord I got regularly kicked without notice for some not even heated argument. if I extrapolate, this side of the web is becoming a way for people to craft tiny bubbles to fit their own little views on life.

Any on-line venue is a place where mods and admins make the rules. You know them before going in. Their place, their rules. It’s the same when going into any bar. Some bars may allow rowdy behavior, others have strict measures. In such places speech is a privilege and not a right. The only remarkable thing here in this article is the size of the discord. The problem with huge size is that the amplification effect is…

To reuse your bar analogy. I came in and said 'dont you think the tea is not warm enough' owner said 'uhh nooo' I said 'really, I never drank tea that cold, i think it's a lot better warmer' when suddenly the chair was removed from behind and I was thrown out.

Maybe I didn't see the sign 'no complaints about tea temperature allowed in here or you will be removed asap' but I found the whole ordeal ridiculously immature.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by anticensor »

jayd16 wrote: post #274
johncessna wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe that's the next round in the information wars? Each side probing the automated moderating systems of large social media platforms until they find the right sequence that will trigger a shutdown. I'd assume state actors will be able to do this on their own, but for us without state sponsorship, maybe you'll be able to buy it as a service off of the dark web.

Next? Triggering automated bans has been a tactic for quite a long time.

Discord applies automated bans for spamming and API abuse, not for hate speech.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by nextlevelwizard »

sneakernets wrote: post #484
nextlevelwizard wrote: post #478

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Problem is there are no competitors worth mentioning.

There were potential competitors back when it really didn't matter - the early 00s. Even AIM at its feature peak could do pretty much everything Discord can do now (save for some of the server organization and custom content), but only a fraction in the US had Broadband to take advantage of it. And it wasn't written in resource-hungry Electron.

Demand wasn't there. Gaming was seen way more as "that thing nerds do" and online communities where mostly about very async forums.

Now gaming has hit main stream and is accepted by everyone. Forum concept has been dead in the water for years and everyone has moved go mobile first social medias, but none of the other social medias fill the niche of IM & VoIP.

As side note: we can gripe about Discord being electron based all we want, but that is actually a huge selling point. Discord just works on all platforms with all features. Even Linux is not some shitty after thought that has 3rd party gobbled together client that requires 10 hours of tweaking each week just to keep running. Then obviously the same code base runs on browsers.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by _v7gu »

Traster wrote: post #714
NotPavlovsDog wrote: post #669

This is really exciting, feels like open standards, independent internet is going to continue getting extreme motivation to expand and establish, with private "freedom of speech" censorship by for-profit platforms. We're going to see more fragmentation, and growth of closed platforms perceived by users as "slightly less evil" such as telegram vs watsapp. This may also motivate the return to truly open internet ideals…

People need to stop being so lazy and throwing around the word censorship. If a bunch or teenagers come into my coffee shop and start loudly calling each autists and retards I'm going to kick them out. I'm not censoring them by kicking them out.

Thousands of such online communities, and you only throw out the ones that threaten your hedge fund?

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by onethought »

staticelf wrote: post #719
Traster wrote: post #714

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People need to stop being so lazy and throwing around the word censorship. If a bunch or teenagers come into my coffee shop and start loudly calling each autists and retards I'm going to kick them out. I'm not censoring them by kicking them out.

It would only be a fair parable if your coffee shop was the only coffeshop in the entire city or that it exists like 1-3 others but you all talk with eachother on the phone and collectively agree to deny those people service.

And that still wouldn’t be censorship.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by jsilence »

staticelf wrote: post #719
Traster wrote: post #714

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People need to stop being so lazy and throwing around the word censorship. If a bunch or teenagers come into my coffee shop and start loudly calling each autists and retards I'm going to kick them out. I'm not censoring them by kicking them out.

It would only be a fair parable if your coffee shop was the only coffeshop in the entire city or that it exists like 1-3 others but you all talk with eachother on the phone and collectively agree to deny those people service.

They are free to run their own Matrix, Mattermost, Rocketchat, IRC, whatever node...

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by anticensor »

nacho2sweet wrote: post #188
rasz wrote: post #2

>“hateful and discriminatory content after repeated warnings.” banned for posting memes like https://twitter.com/NorthmanTrader/status/135439073542503628...

Discord is gaming community chat room. They would have no users if they are banning for using the word "retard".

> gaming community chat room

A platform of gaming community chat rooms, actually.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by onethought »

_v7gu wrote: post #725
Traster wrote: post #714

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People need to stop being so lazy and throwing around the word censorship. If a bunch or teenagers come into my coffee shop and start loudly calling each autists and retards I'm going to kick them out. I'm not censoring them by kicking them out.

Thousands of such online communities, and you only throw out the ones that threaten your hedge fund?

That isn’t what censorship is. Nor is it a violation of free speech. The government didn’t get involved.

Private companies and individuals can do what ever they like with their property, no?

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by Traster »

_v7gu wrote: post #725
Traster wrote: post #714

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People need to stop being so lazy and throwing around the word censorship. If a bunch or teenagers come into my coffee shop and start loudly calling each autists and retards I'm going to kick them out. I'm not censoring them by kicking them out.

Thousands of such online communities, and you only throw out the ones that threaten your hedge fund?

By your standard every newspaper, every TV channel, every website that refuses to publish my views is censoring me. It's an absurd standard to call censorship.

Discord has made no attempt to stop anyone saying anything, they're just chosen not to lend these people their megaphone.

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