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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by kaslai »

joubert wrote: post #400
ve55 wrote: post #14

And they chose today as the best possible time to enact this ban? Really? I really think they should have put more thought into the timing of this decision; a lot of users are going to be upset and will suddenly start to realize that a single company has a monopoly on their online social life (this may seem like an exaggeration, but it feels quite true to me colloquially, especially if you're a younger US male and/or…

> that a single company has a monopoly on their online social life Isn’t that what people are also basically saying of Twitter. And Facebook. And ...?

Yes, though that's kind of irrelevant. What use is Facebook to me if all my friends are only on Discord? These companies aren't the only source of socialization for everyone, but for a lot of people they effectively are.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by h_anna_h »

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #258
TechBro8615 wrote: post #228

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The fact that 4Chan itself has not been the target of deplatforming efforts is confusing to me. If I were to put my tinfoil hat on for a bit, I might speculate that it’s a honeypot that shares data with the feds.

4chan hosts it's own server: — how could it? Cloudflare did drop 8chan for political pressure. Both also have a very undeserved reputation. I saw news reports on 8chan as if it were something similar to Stormfront . The front page was mostly video game and pornography and one had to search very deep into it's hidden circles to find racial supremacy content.

4chan uses cloudflare

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by aardvarkr »

zionic wrote: post #451
Sunspark wrote: post #413

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No, it's because they became a legal risk as they were the primary host of insurrectionists who broke into the Capitol while chanting "Hang Mike Pence!". Also, private business can do whatever they want. 1st amendment only applies to government not private business.

Please stop spreading misinformation, the capital riot was primarily organized on Facebook.

He said “primary host of insurrectionists” and said nothing about planning. You’re just looking to fight about some terrible app that was ran by a wannabe mark zuckerberg that prided himself on letting extremists run rampant. Zero moderation meant anyone who wanted to say “hang mike pence” could do it all day long without any fear of repurcusion. That’s a clearly violent threat. That’s the chant of a anarchist mob.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by sneakernets »

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #478
technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

Problem is there are no competitors worth mentioning.

There were potential competitors back when it really didn't matter - the early 00s. Even AIM at its feature peak could do pretty much everything Discord can do now (save for some of the server organization and custom content), but only a fraction in the US had Broadband to take advantage of it.

And it wasn't written in resource-hungry Electron.

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Post by testesttest »

Sunspark wrote: post #413
jeffreyrogers wrote: post #325

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It doesn't help that one of the most recent ones to try was deplatformed as it was gaining many new users.

No, it's because they became a legal risk as they were the primary host of insurrectionists who broke into the Capitol while chanting "Hang Mike Pence!". Also, private business can do whatever they want. 1st amendment only applies to government not private business.

Private business can't do whatever they want when their behavior is regulated/encouraged by congress. See https://www.wsj.com/articles/save-the-constitution-from-big-...

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Post by h_anna_h »

cbozeman wrote: post #290
thinkingemote wrote: post #262

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Oh it's not a secret, 4chan is and has been for decades actually proactive (or at least no supoena needed) with sharing data with LEO and has strong (albeit US free speech levels of) moderation across all of the site. If a UK citizen were to post as offensively as a US citizen they would and have been arrested. The site doesn't give protection. I steer clear of it, but wonder if with more EU like moderation a better…

> but wonder if with more EU like moderation a better site could be formed. > If a UK citizen were to post as offensively as a US citizen they would and have been arrested. The idea of posting something and being arrested disgusts me. The bar around the world for such an action should be just as high as it is in America. If I post that I'm going to come and kill you, thinkingemote, at 10:17 a.m. at your place of work…

> The idea of posting something and being arrested disgusts me. The bar around the world for such an action should be just as high as it is in America

US citizens can be arrested for posting material such as child pornography too.

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Post by ace_of_spades »

6nf wrote: post #475
technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

I don't agree with the way you get your point across but I support your right to get your point across this way.

I don’t really get it. Why do we keep telling people that it is support worthy to engage in name calling? Is it alright to let kids call teachers names at school? “This fucking imbecile wants me to do homework! Fuck that shit!” Maybe that’s ok now since Trump made it acceptable but it certainly wasn’t considered to be appropriate for a long time. It’s not free speech, it’s derogatory speech (for either side of those comparisons). So what changed?

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Post by wavefunction »

jniedrauer wrote: post #342
cbozeman wrote: post #263

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The worst, or maybe the best, part of your post is that you don't realize the American youth from the 60s literally created this generation with their greed and entitlement.

The parent comment was likely talking about the hippies, who are not the same demographic as the one you are referring to.

I think they're pointing out that "the hippies" were a very small % of people their own age with an out-sized popular culture representation that doesn't reflect the sentiments of the rest of that generation.

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Post by Anon1096 »

melling wrote: post #480
Anon1096 wrote: post #470

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I agree with this post. Although the narrative being spun on WallStreetBets and co wants you to believe in a short squeeze, it doesn't seem like any shorts were actually squeezed. This morning, Melvin Capital and Citron successfully exited their positions in Gamestop. Had there been a true squeeze, the whole point would have been to prevent an easy exit and force them to cause the price to balloon out of control. By…

Melvin lost 30% this year...this month https://www.wsj.com/articles/gamestop-mania-reveals-power-sh...

As I said, they made a painful exit but they were able to get out. If there was a real squeeze going on, their losses would have been eye-watering and far far over 100% of their assets. In 2008, Volkswagen became the most valuable company in the world for a day because short sellers literally _could not_ exit their position. There were no shares to acquire at any price. Gamestop, with 90M trade volume in the last day, does not resemble a squeeze at all. Short sellers are able to leave and lick their wounds. In a squeeze they'd be trapped.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by agumonkey »

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

discord is filled with 'snowflakes' (apologies if that seems insulting)

I'm only a sample of 1 but on IRC I never felt surrounded by trigger happy mods. on discord I got regularly kicked without notice for some not even heated argument.

if I extrapolate, this side of the web is becoming a way for people to craft tiny bubbles to fit their own little views on life.

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