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The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s What Happens If You Try

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Re: The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s What Happens If You Try

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Post by mbgerring »

Every month I go into The Who Is Hiring thread and Ctrl-F for “climate,” “energy,” and “carbon” and almost never turn anything up.

I’ve been part of this community for something like ten years and I know many people on here to be extremely shrewd and intelligent, and yet, over and over again, I see people who don’t understand the scale of climate change at all, nor the scale of the opportunity involved in transitioning the world’s energy and infrastructure away from burning carbon.

Is Peter Kalmus a little eccentric? Sure. But who’s crazier — him, or the vast majority of the Hacker News community who just completely shrug off climate change and the opportunity represented by the transition, even now that there are several clean energy billionaires?

Re: The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s What Happens If You Try

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Post by gnicholas »

Udik wrote: post #22
Animats wrote: post #15

It's going to take out the fringes of many coastal cities. The US probably loses much of New Orleans and Miami. Some of the hotter spots on the planet will become unlivable. Those things have already happened. India and parts of Africa have the worst problems. As do some Asian cities with heavily populated river delta areas. On the other hand, the northern tier of US states become more habitable. We get an ice-free N…

> India and parts of Africa have the worst problems. So much so that Africa's population is projected to increase by 1 billion, doubling in the next 30 years. Any environmentalist would like to elucidate us on the consequences of this? Those who are worried about the impact of climate change on water availability or conflicts might want to have a word about the consequences of adding 1 billion people in 30 years in t…

I went to a TED talk at UNGA week a few years ago, and the presenter talked about various things that can be done to limit climate change. At the top of the list was women's education/empowerment. This got a lot of applause from the audience, who were excited to clap for preventing climate change and empowering women at the same time.

The presenter did briefly mention the reason that these two laudable goals coincide, which is that women who are empowered and educated have fewer children. I don't think the presenter would have gotten quite so much applause if he had said "the number one thing we can do to prevent climate change is to make sure women in developing countries don't reproduce quite so much". And to be sure, he wasn't saying we should just fund birth control and abortions — he was framing that as a result of educating and empowering women.

But it's no coincidence that the Gates Foundation has dedicated hundreds of millions of dollars to their Family Planning initiative in Africa. [1]

So it may not be in the headlines, but the UN and others are surely aware of the impact of population growth.

1: https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/news/gates-foundation-com...

Re: The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s What Happens If You Try

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Post by arkitaip »

mbgerring wrote: post #31

Every month I go into The Who Is Hiring thread and Ctrl-F for “climate,” “energy,” and “carbon” and almost never turn anything up. I’ve been part of this community for something like ten years and I know many people on here to be extremely shrewd and intelligent, and yet, over and over again, I see people who don’t understand the scale of climate change at all, nor the scale of the opportunity involved in transitioni…

Why do you give so much valuable headspace to HN? In the scheme of things, it's mostly irrelevant and impotent. There are more fruitful grounds if you seek allies in your climate change work.

Re: The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s What Happens If You Try

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Post by vosper »

ncmncm wrote: post #25
betwixthewires wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I usually don't get frisky on this site because I prefer productive discussion, but the snotty hubris you've just demonstrated is nauseating. You're telling me that I shouldn't ask certain questions? Tell me then. Tell me, what should I be concerned about. What sort of discussion should I he engaged in? What should my opinions be? How can I be as right as you?

What is your expectation for the response to 100M refugees pouring across the border?

I wouldn’t expect the collapse of global civilization

Re: The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s What Happens If You Try

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Post by WillPostForFood »

Animats wrote: post #15

It's going to take out the fringes of many coastal cities. The US probably loses much of New Orleans and Miami. Some of the hotter spots on the planet will become unlivable. Those things have already happened. India and parts of Africa have the worst problems. As do some Asian cities with heavily populated river delta areas. On the other hand, the northern tier of US states become more habitable. We get an ice-free N…

Those things have already happened.

Where?

Re: The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s What Happens If You Try

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Post by mbgerring »

arkitaip wrote: post #33
mbgerring wrote: post #31

Every month I go into The Who Is Hiring thread and Ctrl-F for “climate,” “energy,” and “carbon” and almost never turn anything up. I’ve been part of this community for something like ten years and I know many people on here to be extremely shrewd and intelligent, and yet, over and over again, I see people who don’t understand the scale of climate change at all, nor the scale of the opportunity involved in transitioni…

Why do you give so much valuable headspace to HN? In the scheme of things, it's mostly irrelevant and impotent. There are more fruitful grounds if you seek allies in your climate change work.

Don’t worry about me, I’m already doing that work (and making good money doing it!) I’m just trying to understand why so few people here see what to me is very obvious.

Re: The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s What Happens If You Try

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Post by twoslide »

mbgerring wrote: post #31

Every month I go into The Who Is Hiring thread and Ctrl-F for “climate,” “energy,” and “carbon” and almost never turn anything up. I’ve been part of this community for something like ten years and I know many people on here to be extremely shrewd and intelligent, and yet, over and over again, I see people who don’t understand the scale of climate change at all, nor the scale of the opportunity involved in transitioni…

I don't know if it is a question of intelligence or understanding, but rather evidence that there is currently very little demand for climate solutions (because everyone can externalize these costs for free). The lack of jobs on HN in this area is really a symptom of the problem. But also true that their are jobs in this area (solar) they just don't overlap with the typical HN skillset.

Re: The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s What Happens If You Try

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Post by Traubenfuchs »

And yet he had children. Having just one child increases your climate footprint beyond your control -even if it's zero otherwise.

Besides that, beyond his (outdoor toilet & food) masochism he is a massive hypocrite like EVERY SINGLE person that publicly whines about climate change: Unibody macbook, car, christmas lights, another macbook, iPhone, wait a second... is this a god damn amazon box in the background? Yes it is! So anyways, unless you don't have children, stop pretending you really care about bobcats and your climate footprint.

Re: The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s What Happens If You Try

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Post by Traubenfuchs »

lgats wrote: post #29

Nothing like reducing your carbon footprint by using a composting toilet and having 3 offspring

I wonder what climate clowns would respond when asked about this? Would they admit that having 3 offspring was a bad decision, climate wise, or would they remain committed to their cognitive dissonance?

Re: The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s What Happens If You Try

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Post by timlod »

mbgerring wrote: post #31

Every month I go into The Who Is Hiring thread and Ctrl-F for “climate,” “energy,” and “carbon” and almost never turn anything up. I’ve been part of this community for something like ten years and I know many people on here to be extremely shrewd and intelligent, and yet, over and over again, I see people who don’t understand the scale of climate change at all, nor the scale of the opportunity involved in transitioni…

As for your search: there's climate.careers - a site with jobs based around climate change.
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