I keep reading of a "climate crisis", and yet cannot see first hand any actual manifestation of it outside of the newspaper headlines. There is a covid crisis going on, and I can see that well, affects me personally, affects the economy, affects the country. A climate crisis? Absolutely not. There are climate-connected adverse events here and there in the world, some with higher frequency than in the past, but do these collect together into a global "climate crisis"? I certainly don't see it.
The Climate Crisis Is Worse Than You Can Imagine. Here’s What Happens If You Try
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#22It's going to take out the fringes of many coastal cities. The US probably loses much of New Orleans and Miami. Some of the hotter spots on the planet will become unlivable. Those things have already happened. India and parts of Africa have the worst problems. As do some Asian cities with heavily populated river delta areas. On the other hand, the northern tier of US states become more habitable. We get an ice-free N…
> India and parts of Africa have the worst problems.
So much so that Africa's population is projected to increase by 1 billion, doubling in the next 30 years. Any environmentalist would like to elucidate us on the consequences of this? Those who are worried about the impact of climate change on water availability or conflicts might want to have a word about the consequences of adding 1 billion people in 30 years in the poorest and most conflictual continent of the world. Yet I hear no one speaking, I see no headlines, why is so?
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#23As with every major man made catastrophe, it could have been avoided, if we cared enough about it. Also, there is never a single solution that will fix everything, but if we got behind half a dozen of the best options, we could probably avoid the worst effects, but that would require actually making a global plan and sticking with it through various administrations.
The one good thing if civilization does collapse, is that doesn't necessarily mean the end of humanity. It just means thousands to hundreds of thousands of years to get back to normal temperature wise. In that time frame I'm sure we will evolve to handle those tempatures, but of course not without all the tradedgy and loss of life.
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#24This man is nuts. It's a dire sign of the times that any publication would assert him as an intellectual or a martyr rather than a deranged outcast. Replace his delusions with almost any other and he would certainly attract those labels, or worse.
This is not science. It's religion. Enough doomsday predictions have come and gone for me to be a heretic. People like this make me proud to wear the label.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those are entirely the wrong questions to be asking.
I usually don't get frisky on this site because I prefer productive discussion, but the snotty hubris you've just demonstrated is nauseating. You're telling me that I shouldn't ask certain questions? Tell me then. Tell me, what should I be concerned about. What sort of discussion should I he engaged in? What should my opinions be? How can I be as right as you?
What is your expectation for the response to 100M refugees pouring across the border?
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#26It's going to take out the fringes of many coastal cities. The US probably loses much of New Orleans and Miami. Some of the hotter spots on the planet will become unlivable. Those things have already happened. India and parts of Africa have the worst problems. As do some Asian cities with heavily populated river delta areas. On the other hand, the northern tier of US states become more habitable. We get an ice-free N…
That's what happens in the (very) long term. In the short term (decades/centuries), you're going to see a lot of extremes from one day to the next.
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#27A big part of the problem is these anodyne expressions "climate change" and "global warming". They say, "so what?" We should only ever be saying "Global Climate Disruption". I am estimating a 50% chance of global civilization collapse by 2030. It starts with crop failure in tropical and subtropical countries. Fishery collapse, as coral reefs are wiped out by bleaching and acidification, slashes access to protein. Fam…
> I am estimating a 50% chance of global civilization collapse by 2030.
You are saying that the human population will be ~3,500,000,000 less in the next ten years? That's...an extraordinary claim to make.
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#28I can imagine a lot of things, but what the science is saying and what this article is saying don't seem to line up. It reminds me of this tweet from Senator Ed Markey: https://twitter.com/SenMarkey/status/1101234939058683904?s=2... > Climate change is literally destroying the planet. According to the Trump admin's National Climate Assessment, with no action, climate change will result in 10% GDP loss by 2090. That 1…
What you're missing in my opinion is how profitable drumming up existential fears about climate change in the population has been over the decades.
You're literate, you can form complete sentences, most of you have a post secondary education. It's not news, you've had your whole life to figure this out. The debate was over a long time ago. The party is over, the balloons are all either popped or up in the ceiling. Time to put away your gazoo, and wash the make-up off. This is no time to be a clown.
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#29Nothing like reducing your carbon footprint by using a composting toilet and having 3 offspring
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I usually don't get frisky on this site because I prefer productive discussion, but the snotty hubris you've just demonstrated is nauseating. You're telling me that I shouldn't ask certain questions? Tell me then. Tell me, what should I be concerned about. What sort of discussion should I he engaged in? What should my opinions be? How can I be as right as you?
What is your expectation for the response to 100M refugees pouring across the border?
Refugees from where?