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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by nsator »

gleenn wrote: post #547
ohyes wrote: post #519

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get your point across without stomping a category of disabled person and making me think you're an immature shit-for-brains who I don't want to associate with. You act like your dictionary definition of the word 'retard' is some brilliant insight. It's garbage. Everyone, everywhere, would be better off without the 'content' that you're providing. You have the right to say whatever you want and I have the right to thr…

Language isn't about beating people over the head about "mis-using" words, it's about conveying meaning. https://www.thoughtco.com/descriptivism-language-term-169044... I'm going to make an argument for linguistic descriptivism. I've never once thought, in the WSB subreddit, someone calling another an "autist" or a "retard" was ever intended to harm or disrespect people with those literal issues. It's a niche audienc…

> I've never once thought, in the WSB subreddit, someone calling another an "autist" or a "retard" was ever intended to harm or disrespect people with those literal issues.

What you said is purely annecdotal and it's a big assumption to think you know other people's thoughts and intents are.

Fact is they are popularizing hate speech to a growing audience and its not ok. Period.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by m8s »

JAlexoid wrote: post #505
Sunspark wrote: post #413

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No, it's because they became a legal risk as they were the primary host of insurrectionists who broke into the Capitol while chanting "Hang Mike Pence!". Also, private business can do whatever they want. 1st amendment only applies to government not private business.

Parler showed how hypocritical people are. A pizza place gets bashed for saying that they wouldn't serve pizza to a same sex wedding - they get bashed by one group and praised by another. Payment systems cancel Parler - one group praises private actions, the other bashes it. I hate Parler, but it showed that both sides are rotten authoritarians.

Comparing a wedding to a terrorist attack on the United States Capitol is absurd.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by dorkwood »

amvalo wrote: post #591
ohyes wrote: post #519

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get your point across without stomping a category of disabled person and making me think you're an immature shit-for-brains who I don't want to associate with. You act like your dictionary definition of the word 'retard' is some brilliant insight. It's garbage. Everyone, everywhere, would be better off without the 'content' that you're providing. You have the right to say whatever you want and I have the right to thr…

So calling someone R*** is not allowed but calling them shit-for-brains is, though the intended meaning is pretty much the same.

I think it's more like if the name "amvalo" caught on as an insult, which meant someone had shit for brains. Both "amvalo" and "shit for brains" would then hold the same meaning, but only one of those terms would be a needless attack on amvalo.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by swebs »

baud147258 wrote: post #264
Blikkentrekker wrote: post #258

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4chan hosts it's own server: — how could it? Cloudflare did drop 8chan for political pressure. Both also have a very undeserved reputation. I saw news reports on 8chan as if it were something similar to Stormfront . The front page was mostly video game and pornography and one had to search very deep into it's hidden circles to find racial supremacy content.

Even if 4chan host their servers, if they're not in someone's basement, they'd be in colocation, which can then be targeted, since I don't think 4chan own the full datacenter.

Don't know about now, but it was hosted in a basement as of 2012.

https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0689/86/1545245294211.jpg

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by hrktb »

oscribinn wrote: post #498
technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

I'm going to get downvoted for this for sure, but man it's nice to see a hacker news commentator that actually has a pair.

It still fascinates me that everything goes back to having a pair or not. For me it’s not the profanity but where it goes back to that makes me pause.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by alpaca128 »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #579
gleenn wrote: post #547

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Language isn't about beating people over the head about "mis-using" words, it's about conveying meaning. https://www.thoughtco.com/descriptivism-language-term-169044... I'm going to make an argument for linguistic descriptivism. I've never once thought, in the WSB subreddit, someone calling another an "autist" or a "retard" was ever intended to harm or disrespect people with those literal issues. It's a niche audienc…

„Retard“ has evolved and is universally regarded as an insult these days. Denying this entirely obvious fact is rather hard to square with your claim of being a linguist. The science tends to take a more descriptive approach, and to acknowledge the changing nature of language.

The very reason of how words like "retard" evolve in the first place is by people using those words outside of the standard dictionary definition's meaning.

What I want to say is that just like there's a huge difference in meaning between "this is shit" and "this is the shit", even usually insulting words can be used in inoffensive ways(like it's done on WSB) - and of course the other way around you can call someone a "genius" and make it obvious you meant the exact opposite.

Language is an incredibly flexible tool and every dictionary definition or scientific description is an obsolete snapshot at best.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by b0rsuk »

agumonkey wrote: post #490
technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

discord is filled with 'snowflakes' (apologies if that seems insulting) I'm only a sample of 1 but on IRC I never felt surrounded by trigger happy mods. on discord I got regularly kicked without notice for some not even heated argument. if I extrapolate, this side of the web is becoming a way for people to craft tiny bubbles to fit their own little views on life.

Yup, I was permabanned from rockpapershotgun for arguing against rootkit multiplayer anti-cheat software and asking that punkbuster, VAC and their equivalents should be regularly reviewed and scrutinized. I didn't use a single swear word. No one reviews anticheat.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by atoav »

cheph wrote: post #571
ohyes wrote: post #519

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get your point across without stomping a category of disabled person and making me think you're an immature shit-for-brains who I don't want to associate with. You act like your dictionary definition of the word 'retard' is some brilliant insight. It's garbage. Everyone, everywhere, would be better off without the 'content' that you're providing. You have the right to say whatever you want and I have the right to thr…

> immature Get your point across without stomping a category of person.

A category of person? Being immature means you behave immature. Scolding someone for behaviour is very different than scolding them for something they can't change about them selves (e.g. like where they have been born).

Usually we also factor in age when calling someone immature. So if someone calls you immature, they mean "immature given your age", so it is certainly different from e.g. hating on all kids, teenagers or old people.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by boruto »

Semaphor wrote: post #444

For those wondering why the sub went private for a time: > We have grown to the kind of size we only dreamed of in the time it takes to get a bad nights sleep. We've got so many comments and submissions that we can't possibly even read them all, let alone act on them as moderators. We wrote software to do most of the moderation for us but that software isn't allowed to read the Reddit new feed fast enough and submit…

Cannot they have two or three bots moderating?
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