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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by threevox » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 6:37 AM UTC

ohyes wrote: post #519

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

Get your point across without stomping a category of disabled person and making me think you're an immature shit-for-brains who I don't want to associate with. You act like your dictionary definition of the word 'retard' is some brilliant insight. It's garbage. Everyone, everywhere, would be better off without the 'content' that you're providing. You have the right to say whatever you want and I have the right to thr…

Fuck off dude, your argument here is nothing better than an ad hominem despite you claiming the supposed intellectual high ground. Discord is cowardly and aggressively normative and so are you

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by jakelazaroff » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 6:37 AM UTC

nostromo wrote: post #540

jakelazaroff wrote: post #526

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but I also support the mods’ right to ban them for getting their point across this way. Deplatforming is itself guaranteed by freedom of speech.

They banned everyone, not just a few users. Imagine if HN’s host killed all of HN because someone used the “r word” and it wasn’t removed.

Yes, that's freedom of speech. You can criticize the decision, but it's their decision to make.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by xapata » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 6:37 AM UTC

vmh1928 wrote: post #349

ThomPete wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no pump and dump scheme that haven't been allowed by the hedge funds for decades.

Or the Federal Reserve pumping everything with their easy money buyback of zombie companies and Treasury instruments.

It's not a zombie after you revive it.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 6:40 AM UTC

calpaterson wrote: post #518

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

The problem for you is that you can make the exactly same argument without the words that people object to and it will upset no one and lie unmoderated. You're being moderated for rudeness and not your opinion.

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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by retardfromwsb » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 6:45 AM UTC

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

We are calling ourselfs retards in /r/wallstreetbets that alone would be instaban anywhere.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by ziftface » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 6:46 AM UTC

calpaterson wrote: post #518

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

The problem for you is that you can make the exactly same argument without the words that people object to and it will upset no one and lie unmoderated. You're being moderated for rudeness and not your opinion.

I'm not convinced. I think that gives discord and others an easy excuse to censor people or communities they don't want on their platform, but I just don't buy that their real objection was rudeness.

This is an effective excuse because not many will come to the defense of socially unacceptable behavior. Look no further than this thread for examples of that.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by gleenn » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 6:46 AM UTC

ohyes wrote: post #519

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

Get your point across without stomping a category of disabled person and making me think you're an immature shit-for-brains who I don't want to associate with. You act like your dictionary definition of the word 'retard' is some brilliant insight. It's garbage. Everyone, everywhere, would be better off without the 'content' that you're providing. You have the right to say whatever you want and I have the right to thr…

Language isn't about beating people over the head about "mis-using" words, it's about conveying meaning. https://www.thoughtco.com/descriptivism-language-term-169044...

I'm going to make an argument for linguistic descriptivism. I've never once thought, in the WSB subreddit, someone calling another an "autist" or a "retard" was ever intended to harm or disrespect people with those literal issues. It's a niche audience with very specific meaning. As a linguist, I find it fascinating and aptly descriptive frankly. As a person who knows people with actual mental problems, I understand why it may be distasteful. However I strongly feel that when you enter that subreddit, the jargon is both incredibly obvious and specific.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by notRobot » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 6:48 AM UTC

oscribinn wrote: post #498

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

I'm going to get downvoted for this for sure, but man it's nice to see a hacker news commentator that actually has a pair.

...they have "a pair" because they use words that as a society we've decided shouldn't be used because they're derogatory to a certain group of people?

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by cloakandswagger » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 6:49 AM UTC

true_religion wrote: post #453

lizardking wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you consider maybe just letting people enjoy things that aren’t for you instead?

I will admit that racist clubs aren’t for me. However since they are against me, my race, and the continued breathing of my family... I reserve the right to report them. Racist groups start with talk, then inevitably end with burning crosses and dangling nooses. This isn’t hyperbole.

It is hyperbole, and it isn't going to work for you much longer.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by dmingod666 » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 6:49 AM UTC

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #511

dmingod666 wrote: post #501

Anyone who's committed a 'sin' should be banished from the community. Guess now in a few hundred years cycle again and we'll discover the legal system and curtail the power of the new church. History repeats.

Religion never really disappears from us, even if we claim to be atheist. What changes is who the “high priests” are, what their revelations reveal, and of course what we worship.

Man left on his own will make something resembling religion with it's priests and gods. It's a social coordination mechanism.