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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by amvalo » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:27 AM UTC

ohyes wrote: post #519

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

Get your point across without stomping a category of disabled person and making me think you're an immature shit-for-brains who I don't want to associate with. You act like your dictionary definition of the word 'retard' is some brilliant insight. It's garbage. Everyone, everywhere, would be better off without the 'content' that you're providing. You have the right to say whatever you want and I have the right to thr…

So calling someone R*** is not allowed but calling them shit-for-brains is, though the intended meaning is pretty much the same.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by IfOnlyYouKnew » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:29 AM UTC

gorgoiler wrote: post #556

This is how we end up with the trolls trying to turn the :ok: symbol into hate speech. ...which reminds me: I need to start a letter writing campaign complaining to Apple about peddling sexual imagery (:aubergine:) to minors.

So what...? The swastika used o be an Indian symbol of holiness. Some shitheads started using it, with well-known effects, and that ruined any other possible use. Symbols change, and your pseudo-naive attempts to profess ignorance say more about you than the symbol.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by acct776 » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:30 AM UTC

BoorishBears wrote: post #423

acct776 wrote: post #410

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What sort of asshole joins a community as a tourist, and then reports THEM?! That's for people disrupting a community's conversation...you can just leave.

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The racists et al will find another room, another platform.

IRC/Usenet groups, meshnets, bathroom walls, it doesn't matter: if people have ideas, they will express them, unless Totalitarianism.

Best to refute, even if it doesn't scale.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by mssundaram » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:31 AM UTC

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #579

gleenn wrote: post #547

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Language isn't about beating people over the head about "mis-using" words, it's about conveying meaning. https://www.thoughtco.com/descriptivism-language-term-169044... I'm going to make an argument for linguistic descriptivism. I've never once thought, in the WSB subreddit, someone calling another an "autist" or a "retard" was ever intended to harm or disrespect people with those literal issues. It's a niche audienc…

„Retard“ has evolved and is universally regarded as an insult these days. Denying this entirely obvious fact is rather hard to square with your claim of being a linguist. The science tends to take a more descriptive approach, and to acknowledge the changing nature of language.

I think that they are saying it's similar to how the n-word has evolved - out of the right context it's very insulting (and more) but in certain situations it's appropriate, accepted and encouraged.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by pbourke » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:32 AM UTC

amvalo wrote: post #591

ohyes wrote: post #519

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get your point across without stomping a category of disabled person and making me think you're an immature shit-for-brains who I don't want to associate with. You act like your dictionary definition of the word 'retard' is some brilliant insight. It's garbage. Everyone, everywhere, would be better off without the 'content' that you're providing. You have the right to say whatever you want and I have the right to thr…

So calling someone R*** is not allowed but calling them shit-for-brains is, though the intended meaning is pretty much the same.

Saying that someone is being dense is not the same as using a disability as a pejorative.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by remarkEon » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:32 AM UTC

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #579

gleenn wrote: post #547

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Language isn't about beating people over the head about "mis-using" words, it's about conveying meaning. https://www.thoughtco.com/descriptivism-language-term-169044... I'm going to make an argument for linguistic descriptivism. I've never once thought, in the WSB subreddit, someone calling another an "autist" or a "retard" was ever intended to harm or disrespect people with those literal issues. It's a niche audienc…

„Retard“ has evolved and is universally regarded as an insult these days. Denying this entirely obvious fact is rather hard to square with your claim of being a linguist. The science tends to take a more descriptive approach, and to acknowledge the changing nature of language.

The OP's explanation is correct. The word "retard" being "universally regarded as an insult these days" is just straight up not accurate - on that sub or otherwise. I don't count myself as a linguist but have learned "get around in an emergency" in a few languages and have studied the history of language a bit, and it's very common for words to absorb new meanings in different contexts.

As others have pointed out, "retard" is an anagram of "trader".

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by CodeArtisan » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:33 AM UTC

swiley wrote: post #515

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

This is what everyone on discord gets for using an app like this. We all warned you years ago when you moved to it. Mailing lists for slow stuff and IRC for throw away realtime chats.

There is ##wallstreetbets on freenode but has only around 30 connected users.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by chordalkeyboard » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:33 AM UTC

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #273

hintymad wrote: post #209

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Some posts below said that banning for hate speech was really a charade. But if that's true, what's wrong with retail investors pooling their resources to squeeze short? How is it different from a hedge fund pooling resources to flex their muscle of financial engineering?

There wouldn't be anything wrong with that. There'd be a lot right with it, honestly - I would be trumpeting it as a clear victory of the little guy over snobby funds who don't think anyone else can understand finance. But what's happening right now is almost certainly a pump and dump with a short squeeze as a facade. I've seen a lot of commenters who seem to be grievously misled about the actual mechanics of a short…

> short sellers will be forced to buy all their stock at market price on Friday.

Isn’t that what it means when someone is naked short?

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by vasama » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:36 AM UTC

swiley wrote: post #515

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

This is what everyone on discord gets for using an app like this. We all warned you years ago when you moved to it. Mailing lists for slow stuff and IRC for throw away realtime chats.

Some people care about UX.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by acct776 » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:36 AM UTC

BoorishBears wrote: post #423

acct776 wrote: post #410

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What sort of asshole joins a community as a tourist, and then reports THEM?! That's for people disrupting a community's conversation...you can just leave.

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> "We're suffering from success and our Discord was the first casualty. You know as well as I do that if you gather 250k people in one spot someone is going to say something that makes you look bad. That room was golden and the people that run it are awesome. We blocked all bad words with a bot, which should be enough, but apparently if someone can say a bad word with weird unicode icelandic characters and someone can screenshot it you don't get to hang out with your friends anymore. Discord did us dirty and I am not impressed with them destroying our community"