Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

Post by WA » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:18 AM UTC

newswasboring wrote: post #555

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

> Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. All curse words are in the dictionary. Dictionaries are for looking up meaning, not moral arbiters. What are you on about?

Post by ithkuil » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:19 AM UTC

drak0n1c wrote: post #552

ohyes wrote: post #519

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Get your point across without stomping a category of disabled person and making me think you're an immature shit-for-brains who I don't want to associate with. You act like your dictionary definition of the word 'retard' is some brilliant insight. It's garbage. Everyone, everywhere, would be better off without the 'content' that you're providing. You have the right to say whatever you want and I have the right to thr…

Idiot, stupid, moron, immature -- these terms are all much the same as retard in their origin as a neutral clinical label. These were terms referring to impairments that patients often had through no fault of their own. Why are some of those words still acceptably used negatively in a serious fashion, while others are taboo to be used even affectionately or in a neutral context? Why is your deliberately negative labe…

Post by shard972 » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:23 AM UTC

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #579

gleenn wrote: post #547

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Language isn't about beating people over the head about "mis-using" words, it's about conveying meaning. https://www.thoughtco.com/descriptivism-language-term-169044... I'm going to make an argument for linguistic descriptivism. I've never once thought, in the WSB subreddit, someone calling another an "autist" or a "retard" was ever intended to harm or disrespect people with those literal issues. It's a niche audienc…

„Retard“ has evolved and is universally regarded as an insult these days. Denying this entirely obvious fact is rather hard to square with your claim of being a linguist. The science tends to take a more descriptive approach, and to acknowledge the changing nature of language.

Post by montagg » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:25 AM UTC

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

Post by s1artibartfast » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 7:26 AM UTC

ohyes wrote: post #551

14u2c wrote: post #536

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Is this not the classic problem with all censorship? Of course the majority (and I) would agree that the language used is not productive, but the question of whether something should be allowed, despite its "goodness" (or lack there of), is much more nuanced. I think an argument can be made that the definition of a public forum has changed.

No, it isn't. OP can host his own server and invite his friends and they can say whatever they want there.... but no one has any obligation to give him a venue. If I have a shitty band and I want to book your venue for a gig, you have every right to say to me "no, your band is too shitty for my venue, I don't want to degrade myself or the public in that way." There's very little nuance here at all, no one is saying h…