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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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I don't agree with the way you get your point across but I support your right to get your point across this way.

I don’t really get it. Why do we keep telling people that it is support worthy to engage in name calling? Is it alright to let kids call teachers names at school? “This fucking imbecile wants me to do homework! Fuck that shit!” Maybe that’s ok now since Trump made it acceptable but it certainly wasn’t considered to be appropriate for a long time. It’s not free speech, it’s derogatory speech (for either side of those…

Slowly, but surely, more and more words are being chipped away from the definition of free speech.

Putting the free speech thing aside, the problem here is that it can and it is being used as a pretext to silence the dissidents and the opposition.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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There wouldn't be anything wrong with that. There'd be a lot right with it, honestly - I would be trumpeting it as a clear victory of the little guy over snobby funds who don't think anyone else can understand finance. But what's happening right now is almost certainly a pump and dump with a short squeeze as a facade. I've seen a lot of commenters who seem to be grievously misled about the actual mechanics of a short…

I agree with this post. Although the narrative being spun on WallStreetBets and co wants you to believe in a short squeeze, it doesn't seem like any shorts were actually squeezed. This morning, Melvin Capital and Citron successfully exited their positions in Gamestop. Had there been a true squeeze, the whole point would have been to prevent an easy exit and force them to cause the price to balloon out of control. By…

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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

Discord isn't on your side. They're an unprofitable (so far) VC-backed company whose only customer-facing product is a well-designed chat client. They're clearly trying to build a platform for PR- and ad-friendly discourse. Nobody should be surprised when weirdos get the ban.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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It doesn't help that one of the most recent ones to try was deplatformed as it was gaining many new users.

No, it's because they became a legal risk as they were the primary host of insurrectionists who broke into the Capitol while chanting "Hang Mike Pence!". Also, private business can do whatever they want. 1st amendment only applies to government not private business.

Parler showed how hypocritical people are.

A pizza place gets bashed for saying that they wouldn't serve pizza to a same sex wedding - they get bashed by one group and praised by another. Payment systems cancel Parler - one group praises private actions, the other bashes it.

I hate Parler, but it showed that both sides are rotten authoritarians.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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>Discord says it did not ban the server for financial fraud — rather, it was banned because it continued to allow “hateful and discriminatory content after repeated warnings.” Funny how that works. If they're not careful, people might start to think 'Hate Speech' could be misused to pursue an agenda. 'It's not that I disagree with what they are doing, they should have just called each other assholes instead of the X…

It's an open chat platform. Yes it can be manually moderated, but all it takes is one guy posting something they know is bannable for admins to be within the rules to ban a server. Pretty convenient.

It's not an open platform by any means. 3rd party clients are banned, and what they call "servers" are really just subareas on the company hosted infra that where the broad terms of service are selectively enforced.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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There were potential competitors back when it really didn't matter - the early 00s. Even AIM at its feature peak could do pretty much everything Discord can do now (save for some of the server organization and custom content), but only a fraction in the US had Broadband to take advantage of it. And it wasn't written in resource-hungry Electron.

I'm not a user of screencast, but I don't remember aim having that. Am i wrong ?

I'm working from memory, but AIM at the peak had webcam support and a very rudimentary screen share component. I keep thinking the name of it was "AIM Share", but Googling that does not bring up mentions of it.

There's not much left from that specific era.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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You’d be surprised what kind of asinine bullshit they will ban a server over. Feels like everywhere you go these days some real or virtual administrator is pre-determining how much risk you’re allowed to put yourself in.

I joined the server and the first thing I saw was a mod saying the N word with hard R. Check their history and there's literally pages of it. I didn't appreciate that so I reported it and left. - Lots of people confusing this with not liking WSB. The other WSB discord which was linked to the subreddit was fine even though it was barely moderated. Rough around the edges like WSB tends to be... but fine as a place to h…

So you joined a server and went crying to teacher since you saw a bad word you didn't like instead of just leaving the server and letting it be. It is people like you who are the problem. Banning benign communities for using bad words is what drives people into fringes and into the arms of actual bad actors.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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And they chose today as the best possible time to enact this ban? Really? I really think they should have put more thought into the timing of this decision; a lot of users are going to be upset and will suddenly start to realize that a single company has a monopoly on their online social life (this may seem like an exaggeration, but it feels quite true to me colloquially, especially if you're a younger US male and/or…

> that a single company has a monopoly on their online social life Isn’t that what people are also basically saying of Twitter. And Facebook. And ...?

Twitter is a news feed, not a social network.

Facebook is the dangerous one.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Problem is there are no competitors worth mentioning.

Disclaimer: Excuse me if my statements are possibly utterly wrong due to me not having ever used Discord. Wikipedia says: > Discord is an American VoIP, instant messaging and digital distribution platform designed for creating communities. Don't we have a metric fton of instant messengers which support VoIP and some file transfer? What's so special about Discord? To me as an outsider it merely seems like the kids hav…

The value of a network is exponential in the number of users/connections, not in the technical features available. See Voat vs Parler or old Digg vs old Reddit.
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