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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by agumonkey » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 5:53 AM UTC

sneakernets wrote: post #484

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #478

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Problem is there are no competitors worth mentioning.

There were potential competitors back when it really didn't matter - the early 00s. Even AIM at its feature peak could do pretty much everything Discord can do now (save for some of the server organization and custom content), but only a fraction in the US had Broadband to take advantage of it. And it wasn't written in resource-hungry Electron.

I'm not a user of screencast, but I don't remember aim having that. Am i wrong ?

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by h_anna_h » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 5:55 AM UTC

arsome wrote: post #378

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #180

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Apparently 4chan floods with increase in traffic after such waves. 8chan , which was far better, went under for it though.

8chan did a rename but is indeed still going, https://8kun.top That link is now banned on Wikipedia even though...

Kinda funny, I thought that wikipedia was not supposed to be censored https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_no...

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by nextlevelwizard » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 5:56 AM UTC

josteink wrote: post #479

If discord can ban it, then it’s not really a “server” is it? It’s an account on discord’s SaaS platform. If you want a server you actually control, go matrix. Nobody can ban you then.

If you want users Discord is the only way to go.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by Teever » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 5:56 AM UTC

ace_of_spades wrote: post #487

6nf wrote: post #475

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I don't agree with the way you get your point across but I support your right to get your point across this way.

I don’t really get it. Why do we keep telling people that it is support worthy to engage in name calling? Is it alright to let kids call teachers names at school? “This fucking imbecile wants me to do homework! Fuck that shit!” Maybe that’s ok now since Trump made it acceptable but it certainly wasn’t considered to be appropriate for a long time. It’s not free speech, it’s derogatory speech (for either side of those…

“Take away the right to say ‘fuck’ and you take away the right to say ‘fuck the government.” -- Lenny Bruce

I've never really understood the drive to banish profanity or insults. The purpose of language is to communicate ideas and I see no reason why it should be unacceptable for someone to express their disapproval at a situation or individual in the succinct way that profanity provides.

If anything profanity is far more mundane than the kinds of words a particularly clever person can string together to convey a heinous idea.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 5:57 AM UTC

ace_of_spades wrote: post #487

6nf wrote: post #475

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't agree with the way you get your point across but I support your right to get your point across this way.

I don’t really get it. Why do we keep telling people that it is support worthy to engage in name calling? Is it alright to let kids call teachers names at school? “This fucking imbecile wants me to do homework! Fuck that shit!” Maybe that’s ok now since Trump made it acceptable but it certainly wasn’t considered to be appropriate for a long time. It’s not free speech, it’s derogatory speech (for either side of those…

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Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by Karunamon » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 5:57 AM UTC

Sunspark wrote: post #413

jeffreyrogers wrote: post #325

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It doesn't help that one of the most recent ones to try was deplatformed as it was gaining many new users.

No, it's because they became a legal risk as they were the primary host of insurrectionists who broke into the Capitol while chanting "Hang Mike Pence!". Also, private business can do whatever they want. 1st amendment only applies to government not private business.

Section 230 absolves them of said risk entirely. Amazon's hand wasn't forced.

And quite frankly, I don't buy that accusation. That seems like a convenient, unfalsifiable canard, doubly so when all the tech companies acted in concern.

And please stop with the "1st amendment" thing, which nobody in this conversation even mentioned. This observation is off-topic and the very definition of a dead horse in a conversation about what the law ought to do.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 5:57 AM UTC

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #478

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

Problem is there are no competitors worth mentioning.

Disclaimer: Excuse me if my statements are possibly utterly wrong due to me not having ever used Discord.

Wikipedia says:

> Discord is an American VoIP, instant messaging and digital distribution platform designed for creating communities.

Don't we have a metric fton of instant messengers which support VoIP and some file transfer?

What's so special about Discord?

To me as an outsider it merely seems like the kids have decided TeamSpeak isn't cool anymore and now Discord is cool.

Perhaps in a few weeks they will flock to the next voice chat which they decide is now cool. What's the big deal?

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by oscribinn » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 5:58 AM UTC

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

I'm going to get downvoted for this for sure, but man it's nice to see a hacker news commentator that actually has a pair.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by sneakernets » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 5:59 AM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #490

technick wrote: post #474

Discord would claim its “hateful and discriminatory content” for anything in the fucked up reality we are currently living in. For instance, if you call someone retarded and a mod doesn't step in, that is considered hateful. Even though retard is in the dictionary and a widely accepted term by many people. Then saying that only retards buy the shit hedgefunds are peddling would also be considered discriminatory. I'm…

discord is filled with 'snowflakes' (apologies if that seems insulting) I'm only a sample of 1 but on IRC I never felt surrounded by trigger happy mods. on discord I got regularly kicked without notice for some not even heated argument. if I extrapolate, this side of the web is becoming a way for people to craft tiny bubbles to fit their own little views on life.

I really think it's just the majority of Discord users being from everything but IRC.

Discord servers filled with former/current IRC users rarely have any issues in my experience.

Re: Discord bans r/WallStreetBets server, subreddit went private for a while

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Post by JAlexoid » Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 5:59 AM UTC

underseacables wrote: post #247

ve55 wrote: post #14

And they chose today as the best possible time to enact this ban? Really? I really think they should have put more thought into the timing of this decision; a lot of users are going to be upset and will suddenly start to realize that a single company has a monopoly on their online social life (this may seem like an exaggeration, but it feels quite true to me colloquially, especially if you're a younger US male and/or…

“ a lot of users are going to be upset and will suddenly start to realize that a single company has a monopoly on their online social life” I agree with you, but I lament that outside of Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Reddit, it’s been very hard for any social media company to gain traction.

Instagram = Facebook.

They serve very different audiences. Facebook and Discord seem to be the most intrusive, as they displaced many mediums. I cannot communicate with my homeowner group, because I am banned by facebook for using profanities.

Then Facebook decides to leave political posts proliferate unchecked, while I can't use the word baboon. I personally hate Facebook so much that I told the recruiters to GTFO and never contact me.