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Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Post by jtwaleson »

derfabianpeter wrote: post #68
korpheo wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do love the product you guys make. And that's why I am so damn disappointed with this decision. Can you please give me just a single good reason to convince my management why we are now going to spend MORE in this tool than for the full 365 package?

Can you give management a single good reason to waste hours of time migrating away from a working product because you’re disappointed? If 240 additional bucks a year for a product that continuously moved features from higher to lower tiers for years now is too much for you then maybe you should adjust your expectations towards Enterprise software in general.

Gitlab is a very broad product and not just limited to Enterprise users. Some of us are in startups and others are introducing Gitlab in their companies from the bottom up. For these groups the new pricing is a big setback.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Post by a1369209993 »

Grollicus wrote: post #22

We're currently using the starter edition for exactly one reason, ldap integration. Now we're supposed to pay $240 / employee for an ldap integration?! Not sure what we'll do but I suspect scripting some ldap integration into our gitlab will be one of the best spent times in terms of ROI for me this year.

You were paying 48$/employee for a LDAP integration?

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Post by roblabla »

bearjaws wrote: post #29
Grollicus wrote: post #22

We're currently using the starter edition for exactly one reason, ldap integration. Now we're supposed to pay $240 / employee for an ldap integration?! Not sure what we'll do but I suspect scripting some ldap integration into our gitlab will be one of the best spent times in terms of ROI for me this year.

$240 a year (per engineer) to keep your engineers focusing on providing product value is beyond paying for itself. Building custom in house tooling always costs 5x more than engineers believe, and ultimately doesn't improve your end product. This kind of tooling would probably require at least 100 engineers to justify the innate cost of building and maintaining it.

I've written my own gitlab-ldap integration when I was at a startup, done purely with the gitlab API and a cron job. It took me half a day, and didn't have to touch the script for the three years it was in production afterwards.

So, no, this was absolutely productive. This isn't a particularly hard problem to solve.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Post by Grollicus »

a1369209993 wrote: post #83
Grollicus wrote: post #22

We're currently using the starter edition for exactly one reason, ldap integration. Now we're supposed to pay $240 / employee for an ldap integration?! Not sure what we'll do but I suspect scripting some ldap integration into our gitlab will be one of the best spent times in terms of ROI for me this year.

You were paying 48$/employee for a LDAP integration?

.. and happily so. We (few) devs like gitlab and it was a relatively cheap way to keep the devs happy. The feel-good factor about giving something back. Now it grows to a number that people will actually notice :/

Note that it's not the basic ldap authentication but ldap group sync and especially admin accounts in our case. Basic ldap auth works on the free plan. (ldap authed users take a subscription seat, which costs $0 on the free plan)

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Post by Grollicus »

vbrandl wrote: post #77
Grollicus wrote: post #22

We're currently using the starter edition for exactly one reason, ldap integration. Now we're supposed to pay $240 / employee for an ldap integration?! Not sure what we'll do but I suspect scripting some ldap integration into our gitlab will be one of the best spent times in terms of ROI for me this year.

Not sure if there is any special LDAP functionality, I don't know of, but we use Gitlab CE with LDAP at work. Also looking at the feature comparison [0], I can't find any LDAP related features in the paid versions, that aren't available in the free version. Maybe the feature you are using has been moved to Gitlab CE. Then you can move to the free version. [0]: https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/gitlab-com/feature-compa…

Look at [0], click at "compare more features" and search for ldap. For us it is mainly group sync and administrator sync that's missing.

[0] https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/

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Post by [deleted] »

Grollicus wrote: post #22

We're currently using the starter edition for exactly one reason, ldap integration. Now we're supposed to pay $240 / employee for an ldap integration?! Not sure what we'll do but I suspect scripting some ldap integration into our gitlab will be one of the best spent times in terms of ROI for me this year.

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Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Post by thisgoodlife »

gpm wrote: post #74
throw2838 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like good side business idea. Good engineer could create it over weekend, than sell licenses and do support.

Seems somewhat unethical IMO (admittedly I'm not sure I can fully justify this feeling), and most good software engineers are paid enough to be able to be fairly ethical, but yes.

Quite the contrary, I consider it a good thing that someone is helping out those companies that gitlab is giving up.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Post by marcinzm »

derfabianpeter wrote: post #68
korpheo wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do love the product you guys make. And that's why I am so damn disappointed with this decision. Can you please give me just a single good reason to convince my management why we are now going to spend MORE in this tool than for the full 365 package?

Can you give management a single good reason to waste hours of time migrating away from a working product because you’re disappointed? If 240 additional bucks a year for a product that continuously moved features from higher to lower tiers for years now is too much for you then maybe you should adjust your expectations towards Enterprise software in general.

>Can you give management a single good reason to waste hours of time migrating away from a working product because you’re disappointed?

For a 1000 person org the reason is $240k/year. Can pay for a decent number hours of migration especially over an expected 10 year contract duration. And if you happen to need the top tier features than that'd be $1.2million/year in savings.

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