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Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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We're currently using the starter edition for exactly one reason, ldap integration. Now we're supposed to pay $240 / employee for an ldap integration?! Not sure what we'll do but I suspect scripting some ldap integration into our gitlab will be one of the best spent times in terms of ROI for me this year.

This is what we in the Enterprise Software business call inbound marketing. LOL

This pretty much guarantees a phone call from your VP Engineering tag-teaming with the CFO.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Okay, so I want to give gitlab the benefit of the doubt here. So look: "GitLab is second only to Microsoft-owned GitHub in this market. GitHub is tough to compete with in part because of Microsoft's financial clout and the fact that GitHub is more a strategic asset to win developers than a profit centre." Aren't ms kinda dumping the price here. As in selling at loss in order to kill competition. Wouldn't this be ille…

>Aren't ms kinda dumping the price here. As in selling at loss in order to kill competition.

Um... this has been MS's modus operandi for decades. Remember how you used to have to pay for Netscape Navigator and then MS gave IE away for free?

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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I don't know. But I am desperate to find a good github alternative, so thanks for the suggestion. But at the same time isn't it quite easy to set up a github server?

Might want to have a look at: https://sourcehut.org/ > But at the same time isn't it quite easy to set up a github server? I suspect a typo here - is on premise github a thing? [ed: judging by other comments github enterprise allows self-hosting - but unlike gitlab there's no Free software version]. Fwiw setting up a gitlab server is indeed quite straightforward.

Thank you!

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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That was not the point. I was commenting on my perception of your different level of engagement. And a quick search with algolia justifies that : there are very little Gitlab threads where you have been absent.

That is true, and I was reading a lot yesterday. Because of the expected volume we had a different process for responding on social yesterday and I wasn't part of that group.

I do love the product you guys make. And that's why I am so damn disappointed with this decision.

Can you please give me just a single good reason to convince my management why we are now going to spend MORE in this tool than for the full 365 package?

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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I'm honestly surprised that GitLab didn't go for a-la-carte pricing where you can choose and pick add-on features as needed. It's what other enterprise SaaS platform with broad offerings seems to do with presumably great success (Okta, JIRA, etc.). I wonder if it's a purely by the numbers business decision or if there's technical/product issues which make that approach difficult for GitLab.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Everyone who are finding the pricing too high: care to share why you're not hosting/running your own gitlab instances?

Reading through the comments on a few of these recent Gitlab posts, the self-hosted option has pricing parity with the SaaS option. I.e. most of the features gated to the $19/month Premium tier for the SaaS are similarly gated in the self-hosted option, and require paying the same $19/month cost in order to activate that extended feature set in self-hosted instances.

There do appear to be some features in the paid SaaS options that are available in the free/core self-hosted software, but I can't find a straightforward breakdown of what those all are.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Okay, so I want to give gitlab the benefit of the doubt here. So look: "GitLab is second only to Microsoft-owned GitHub in this market. GitHub is tough to compete with in part because of Microsoft's financial clout and the fact that GitHub is more a strategic asset to win developers than a profit centre." Aren't ms kinda dumping the price here. As in selling at loss in order to kill competition. Wouldn't this be ille…

>Aren't ms kinda dumping the price here. As in selling at loss in order to kill competition. Um... this has been MS's modus operandi for decades. Remember how you used to have to pay for Netscape Navigator and then MS gave IE away for free?

And the Corleone family business was olive oil.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is true, and I was reading a lot yesterday. Because of the expected volume we had a different process for responding on social yesterday and I wasn't part of that group.

I do love the product you guys make. And that's why I am so damn disappointed with this decision. Can you please give me just a single good reason to convince my management why we are now going to spend MORE in this tool than for the full 365 package?

Can you give management a single good reason to waste hours of time migrating away from a working product because you’re disappointed?

If 240 additional bucks a year for a product that continuously moved features from higher to lower tiers for years now is too much for you then maybe you should adjust your expectations towards Enterprise software in general.

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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$240 a year (per engineer) to keep your engineers focusing on providing product value is beyond paying for itself. Building custom in house tooling always costs 5x more than engineers believe, and ultimately doesn't improve your end product. This kind of tooling would probably require at least 100 engineers to justify the innate cost of building and maintaining it.

$240/yr/employee for an LDAP connector is absolutely INSANE.

You get way more than LDAP connectivity...

Re: Gitlab removes its 'starter' tier Users must either pay 5x more or lose features

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We're currently using the starter edition for exactly one reason, ldap integration. Now we're supposed to pay $240 / employee for an ldap integration?! Not sure what we'll do but I suspect scripting some ldap integration into our gitlab will be one of the best spent times in terms of ROI for me this year.

Why LDAP v.s. single sign with SAML?
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