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Non-profits don't necessarily sell anything but they've been sued by the ADA for violating the laws on accessibility.
ADA is the American disabilities act, it can’t sue anyone.
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I concur. I wrote a web interface for a crappy 20yo DSP last year, the thing doesn't even have an MMU and only 32MB of RAM. I basically put all the code in the browser, on the device there's only a very simple C HTTP server that serves the static files and blobs of data. In the end the UI looks fairly modern and responsive even though the backend is potato hardware. I wouldn't say that client-side JS is underrated th…
For YouTube I kind of still see a point, if only to not make scraping videos dead simple by not just having the plain URL of the video file in the html (yes there are still tools out there). But twitter is so ducking ridiculous in that regard. At its core it is a web site to share 280 character long strings, but as of recently you cannot do this anymore without JavaScript! They shut down the legacy page at the end of…
That, and pushing more useds to the mobile application.
For the reasons mentioned in this article—it's probably a good idea to keep plain HTTP access available on your websites.
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> Making your site accessible isn't just a good practice, in the US, it is the law. Courts have rules that the ADA applies to web sites along with any other type of business. This seems to imply that web sites are businesses. If my hobby sites are subject to this, I'm going to be in trouble.
If you're not selling anything, then you're not engaged in commerce and you wouldn't qualify as a "public accommodation" and the law doesn't kick in for you. (Complete list of public accommodation is 24 USC §12181(7)-- https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/12181 ).
> The term “commerce” means travel, trade, traffic, commerce, transportation, or communication
It is pretty funny that their definition of commerce includes commerce, but seems like communication is on the list as well.
I am not a front-end developer but looking at it from a distance I really don't get modern web design. Sure some sites might need fancy javascript single page features, like if your webpage is an interactive map or realtime game, but most sites are just text and some pictures. Whats with all the javascript? Your site looks just like the next one anyway! It feels like an "Emperor's New Clothes" situation or maybe more…
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One of the big linked sites was Beyonce's web site. How big an issue this is depends largely on how big your hobby site is. Update: I think this might even be wrong, its likely personal sites are fine. It's still good practice though!
Unless there's a law I haven't heard of (definitely a possibility) it would be necessary to classify it as a commerce site for the law to apply.
I am not a front-end developer but looking at it from a distance I really don't get modern web design. Sure some sites might need fancy javascript single page features, like if your webpage is an interactive map or realtime game, but most sites are just text and some pictures. Whats with all the javascript? Your site looks just like the next one anyway! It feels like an "Emperor's New Clothes" situation or maybe more…
Rendering HTML on the server is not really "the default" anymore as it was 10 year ago: it's more of an optimization for when your React site is slow, and it's a black box to most people. Even static websites are "strange tech" to new graduates outside the HN bubble.
Also, developers hate mixing tech. You mentioned an "interactive map" in your example. This can be made with React or something like that, right? The issue is that a lot of developers will want to use React for everything else on the page, because they think it's "icky" to use other kinds of tech in other parts of the website. They sorta have a point (the "microfrontends" discussion was a thing a couple years ago), but on the other hand they're not considering the tradeoffs.
Also, the frontend is officially the centre of the application on medium sized companies (50+ devs). It's way easier to add new code to the frontend and spin another microservice than to coordinate between multiple teams of backend engineers.
I'm not saying this is good or bad, btw. It's just how it is.
EDIT: One thing that really bothers me that people fresh in the industry don't really believe that websites were faster 10 or 20 years ago, so I don't really see any light at the end of the tunnel. Sure we can do new things on the web, but what was already possible before has been made slower by our collective refusal to "use the right tool for the job". Even the frontend tooling today is very heavy and slow, and I'm in a 2020 MBP. I don't think we progressed much. React is an amazing idea (and the implementation is great), but the community has become too dogmatic.
I am not a front-end developer but looking at it from a distance I really don't get modern web design. Sure some sites might need fancy javascript single page features, like if your webpage is an interactive map or realtime game, but most sites are just text and some pictures. Whats with all the javascript? Your site looks just like the next one anyway! It feels like an "Emperor's New Clothes" situation or maybe more…
I agree with you. It definitely does not serve the user. I have two thoughts, as a nobody. 1. Ads/trackers/etc. need javascript 2. It's a way of flexing and saying "we have resources to put into this webpage which makes us a serious business." Any other thoughts?
Two other possible reasons from the top of my head:
If a web developer is hired to make a site they can probably charge more if it is a fancy javascript site. In some cases it might be in their self interest to up-sell this to a client that does not know better.
If a web developer makes a site for themselves I am sure many want to take the opportunity to get some experience in the latest web-tech while they are at it. Just as I will use an obscure programming language for my next side project..