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Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Use your browser settings to block third-party cookies altogether. And, better yet, install uBlock Origin and never see an ad again.

Unless you get the pop-up from the site that says, "We see you're using an ad blocker. You need to turn it off in order to access our site." Along with some marketing drivel about how its important advertisers get their ad revenue.

This is when you revoke that website's privilege to run arbitrary Turing-complete code in your browser because it didn't use it wisely.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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To me, there is no such thing as an “ethical ad”. You are trying to steal my attention, my time. You don’t get to do that. My time on Earth is limited and you don’t get a millisecond of it if I can help it. If I want to buy something, I seek it out. Anything else is a waste of my time and a waste of the advertisers money. I long ago decided to throw out every piece of physical ad mail I receive without even glancing…

I'm pretty frustrated by advertising too, and some of it is particularly egregious, but at the moment, there is really no other way for many publishers to get paid. I'm curious, how many services do you subscribe to and pay for content? I pay for a few ad free resources, but certainly a lot of the sites I enjoy don't get my $$.

Because publishers are producing print content for a past era digitally, or, worse, already feed its bastard adapted to advertisement.

I get netflix for about 10€/month, but a weekly print newspaper (still filled with ads...) wants 30€/month (4 issues...) here, where a lesser digital only costs still 10€/month... They just don't serve the information I would pay for, but that doesn't mean the clickbaity "free" online "content" is a legit business model.

I want sober, on point, timely information on matters of shared/common interest, filtered by journalistic overview, contextualization and reliable sourcing. With the option to subscribe to niche content additions, e.g. art, culture, but of course news shouldn't be a comfort zone only, either. I don't want to co-pay for the clear special interests like the sports/soccer or housing section, at all. And I won't ever pay for opinionated outrage and intellectual masturbation, because nothing else happened or feels like anything at the moment. I don't want some mind-numbing four page zeitgeist piece on cancel culture which starts by making associative yak shaving a storytelling virtue. I want to be briefed in the morning, by my personal intelligence service, like madame president.

Publishers are not struggling, they are throwing a fit over a changing information access reality, for 15 years or something. If they cry just a bit longer now, their economic niche is gonna be completely absorbed by technological answers to the question of "What's going on?".

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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"In the case of Firefox’s image cache, a tracker can create a supercookie by “encoding” an identifier for the user in a cached image on one website, and then “retrieving” that identifier on a different website by embedding the same image." Clever. And so frustrating that optimisations need to be turned off due to bad actors.

I'm curious how bad disabling this caching feature would be. Specifically, how often do you load the same image on two different domains?

The most common example I could think of (other than trackers) would be aggregator sites. If the aggregator shows an image that was originally from a destination article or if comments link to a source for some content.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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> Time zone is one possible fingerprint data point. Totally forget that. Oops. Now for the meat of your comment ...and how many have tested their protections so that their testing site recognize that your device is not unique? A very good counterclaim was posted in the comments: I strongly disagree with your findings, Ben. Namely, you list fingerprinting techniques available to browsers, and fail to mention how Safar…

I've got a question; if it is ok to lie in these reports, why do they even exist? I thought these reports were there as a way to introduce client capabilities so that the server can serve the right content. Disclaimer: This is a genuine question. I'm a hardware guy and I don't know how web works nowadays.

You're correct as to why they exist, but then it turns out that this is a privacy leak. Software is hard.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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> Are you somehow suggesting that they should just sit there and hope that people who have never heard of their product independently decide they happen to want or need that product and seek it out, unprompted? Yeah, it's even got a name: shopping.

> Yeah, it's even got a name: shopping. So, for direct to consumer companies who only ship online, SEO? Here's the thing: ads can be useful. Awhile back I got a, highly targeted, ad for high protein sugar free cereal. That's awesome! I am 100% the target audience for that product, and until I saw that ad I had no clue it existed! To find a product like that I'd have to search for it, but I would never search for an e…

hey man, that's great and i'm happy you're healthier because of advertising. My experience has been the opposite (yes, advertising making me and my family UNhealthier -- mentally and emotionally). I don't want targeted ads, but I can understand that you do.

Perhaps there is a way we can both enjoy the internet in our preferred ways. Perhaps not, I don't know.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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And how would you address this problem?

Regulation seems appropriate.

So different website features per country? Or do you mean regulation decides how a browser implements it? Either way I don't see how that would ever work.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Nobody would accept interconnected face scanners in every building they walk into but online it's somehow okay.

> Nobody would accept interconnected face scanners in every building they walk into but online it's somehow okay. There are cars with license plate scanners that wardrive the world. They scan plates in shopping centers, businesses, and even apartment buildings so on the off chance law enforcement, repo businesses, or anyone who wants to know where your car is parked can track you. People accept that. Or rather, most…

> Or rather, most are blissfully unaware that it happens.

That is the problem.

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