Firefox is so good. It's a continual source of amazement for me that a majority of HNers are using a browser made by the largest data gobbler in the world, instead of one that actually tries to prevent spying on users.
Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies
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#12Firefox is so good. It's a continual source of amazement for me that a majority of HNers are using a browser made by the largest data gobbler in the world, instead of one that actually tries to prevent spying on users.
Google websites work better on chrome. Not sure if it’s because google is doing something nefarious or if Firefox is just not keeping up with google website technologies. So, I’ve trained my brain to use chrome as an app only for google websites. When I need to check gmail or YouTube or google calendar, I use chrome. Otherwise I’m on Firefox or safari. It’s worked pretty well. I found I was only really unhappy with F…
Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies
#13Firefox is so good. It's a continual source of amazement for me that a majority of HNers are using a browser made by the largest data gobbler in the world, instead of one that actually tries to prevent spying on users.
Google websites work better on chrome. Not sure if it’s because google is doing something nefarious or if Firefox is just not keeping up with google website technologies. So, I’ve trained my brain to use chrome as an app only for google websites. When I need to check gmail or YouTube or google calendar, I use chrome. Otherwise I’m on Firefox or safari. It’s worked pretty well. I found I was only really unhappy with F…
For a number of sites like YouTube and GMail, it's because of Google. If you change your useragent to look like Chrome, you get served a JS payload that Firefox is fine with, and it is faster.
If your useragent isn't Chrome, they'll serve you a less optimised payload, but which tends to have wider support.
They seem to have made a tradeoff - one that generally isn't necessary under Firefox.
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#14Firefox is so good. It's a continual source of amazement for me that a majority of HNers are using a browser made by the largest data gobbler in the world, instead of one that actually tries to prevent spying on users.
Would you be able to tell the difference between stock firefox and stock chrome if all you saw was the fiddler session? I don't know, I haven't tried. I did look at a firefox session in fiddler and I was not impressed.
Pick your poison. If you configure all the settings in firefox properly it might be acceptable. But can you just do the same in chrome? If not, you can use the privacy friendly chromium browser of your choice. Most firefox users wont take the time to configure it properly and the data will still reach the data gobbler.
Edit: an interesting comment from the other firefox thread https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=25916762
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#17Firefox is so good. It's a continual source of amazement for me that a majority of HNers are using a browser made by the largest data gobbler in the world, instead of one that actually tries to prevent spying on users.
On a much less niche side of things, a lot of web apps like Teams, Zoom, and probably many others are only fully functional on Chromium, thanks to WebRTC specifics and some video encoding stuff that's only on Chromium. Don't know the details, but things like video and desktop streaming are limited to Chromium.
That could very well be an artificially enforced restriction, but I don't think it is. I think firefox is moving towards feature parity with Chrome on this one, I hope so anyway.
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#18Clever. And so frustrating that optimisations need to be turned off due to bad actors.
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#20Firefox is so good. It's a continual source of amazement for me that a majority of HNers are using a browser made by the largest data gobbler in the world, instead of one that actually tries to prevent spying on users.
Firefox sends everything you type in the address bar to google by default. Would you be able to tell the difference between stock firefox and stock chrome if all you saw was the fiddler session? I don't know, I haven't tried. I did look at a firefox session in fiddler and I was not impressed. Pick your poison. If you configure all the settings in firefox properly it might be acceptable. But can you just do the same i…