Never understood this company. Lenovo and Dell sell computers with Ubuntu or Fedora pre-installed, that have been tested and are guaranteed to be fully compatible with Linux. Why would you go with System76, which is selling rebranded Clevo laptops with a markup, and PopOS, which is an Ubuntu derivative?
They ship with coreboot, right? Could be for the free software + firmware
The Serval WS from System76: A Linux Workstation Running PopOS
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Re: The Serval WS from System76: A Linux Workstation Running PopOS
#32Re: The Serval WS from System76: A Linux Workstation Running PopOS
#33Never understood this company. Lenovo and Dell sell computers with Ubuntu or Fedora pre-installed, that have been tested and are guaranteed to be fully compatible with Linux. Why would you go with System76, which is selling rebranded Clevo laptops with a markup, and PopOS, which is an Ubuntu derivative?
This hasn't always been the case. System76 has been around since 2005.
> Why would you go with System76, which is selling rebranded Clevo laptops with a markup, and PopOS, which is an Ubuntu derivative?
To support a company whose entire purpose is to provide hardware running Linux, as opposed to one which does it as a small niche within their much larger Windows-based business.
Re: The Serval WS from System76: A Linux Workstation Running PopOS
#34Never understood this company. Lenovo and Dell sell computers with Ubuntu or Fedora pre-installed, that have been tested and are guaranteed to be fully compatible with Linux. Why would you go with System76, which is selling rebranded Clevo laptops with a markup, and PopOS, which is an Ubuntu derivative?
It comes with a premium because they're a small OEM, but it's not THAT bad of a deal.
Re: The Serval WS from System76: A Linux Workstation Running PopOS
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
THIS. Plenty of kinda nice Linux laptops out there, but with a terrible, terrible screen. For example, a MBP 13" has 2x resolution than this 15". This is a monumental deal breaker for the majority of people.
Have a look at the Dell offerings. The Developer Edition of the XPS 13 is a linux-first example: https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebo... (This post made from an XPS-13 7390 with a standard-HD display. The standard display is quite pleasant to use. The keyboard is wonderful compared to my crouton Chromebook of the past. The fit, finish, and operation of the device is the nicest I've used.)
$ neofetch --off
sscarduzio@nash
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OS: Ubuntu 20.10 x86_64
Host: XPS 13 7390 2-in-1
Kernel: 5.8.0-40-generic
Uptime: 3 days, 10 hours, 34 mins
Packages: 3506 (dpkg), 14 (flatpak), 27 (snap)
Shell: bash 5.0.17
Resolution: 1920x1200
DE: GNOME
WM: Mutter
WM Theme: Yaru-dark
Theme: Yaru-dark [GTK2/3]
Icons: Yaru [GTK2/3]
Terminal: gnome-terminal
CPU: Intel i7-1065G7 (8) @ 3.900GHz
GPU: Intel Iris Plus Graphics G7
Memory: 7620MiB / 15781MiB
I use fractional scaling hidpi (1.3x) and no issues at all. But coming from a 2015 MBP 13" retina display, I can definitely tell the difference, and the MBP was much nicer to look at.I opted fro the FHD+ instead of the 4K screen in my Dell for two reasons:
- 4K is *WAY* beyond Retina, which is already very dense for me.
- I was afraid the 4K would drain the battery (especially on Linux)
I really hope Dell will offer a sane ~3K display (i.e. Retina levels) in the future and remove the burden of choice for their customers (at least where it's not needed).
Before you ask: no coil whine for me, but the thin rubber feet peeled off after exactly one year. This pissed me off on a £2K laptop.
Re: The Serval WS from System76: A Linux Workstation Running PopOS
#36Never understood this company. Lenovo and Dell sell computers with Ubuntu or Fedora pre-installed, that have been tested and are guaranteed to be fully compatible with Linux. Why would you go with System76, which is selling rebranded Clevo laptops with a markup, and PopOS, which is an Ubuntu derivative?
I actually can’t think of a good reason outside of price to not get a computer from a linux first vendor like S76.
Re: The Serval WS from System76: A Linux Workstation Running PopOS
#37Never understood this company. Lenovo and Dell sell computers with Ubuntu or Fedora pre-installed, that have been tested and are guaranteed to be fully compatible with Linux. Why would you go with System76, which is selling rebranded Clevo laptops with a markup, and PopOS, which is an Ubuntu derivative?
100 percent of my 76 laptop works, not just 99 percent like the others.
Re: The Serval WS from System76: A Linux Workstation Running PopOS
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
THIS. Plenty of kinda nice Linux laptops out there, but with a terrible, terrible screen. For example, a MBP 13" has 2x resolution than this 15". This is a monumental deal breaker for the majority of people.
Is there much difference when looking at text on an 13" screen between 1080p and 2160p ? assuming both are high quality screens.
Re: The Serval WS from System76: A Linux Workstation Running PopOS
#39Does System76 make a laptop with a high dpi screen? It seems that is table stakes these days...Seems like this is a pretty expensive laptop (portable desktop), but perhaps for gaming it's not a big deal. However, if you are programming or doing some other text intensive activity the low-dpi screens would be deal breaker.
THIS. Plenty of kinda nice Linux laptops out there, but with a terrible, terrible screen. For example, a MBP 13" has 2x resolution than this 15". This is a monumental deal breaker for the majority of people.
But more to your point, yes, there are few laptops with good screens that have awesome Linux compatibility. They exist, certainly, but there are not too many of them.
Re: The Serval WS from System76: A Linux Workstation Running PopOS
#40Does System76 make a laptop with a high dpi screen? It seems that is table stakes these days...Seems like this is a pretty expensive laptop (portable desktop), but perhaps for gaming it's not a big deal. However, if you are programming or doing some other text intensive activity the low-dpi screens would be deal breaker.
As an owner of a HiDPI laptop, I'm here to tell you that if you want to connect it to an external monitor, you will be disappointed in Linux. For a laptop-monitor combination in Linux, standard resolution is absolutely the way to go. This isn't a rant. Mad, mad respect for Linux here, and longtime Linux user. KDE only offers a single scaling factor, so you must scale the laptop and the external screens identically. T…