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Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

dyingkneepad wrote: post #309
mstade wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how many people reading this comment are thinking, "what's a fax machine?" :o) I like the analogy, but I wonder how effective it is on anyone under the age of what, 35?

I had to use a Fax machine in 2018. In the United States. As the only acceptable way to submit certain documents. I should also point to non-Unitedstatians that checks (that physical paper worth as much money as you write and sign on it) are still in use in the USA.

For the SS-4 form, to get the Employer Identification Number, you have to either make a phone call (fairly long, half na hour in my case), send a fax (and get the EIN in 4 days) or apply by email and... wait 4-5 weeks! [0]

[0] https://www.irs.gov/instructions/iss4

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by mschuetz »

jedberg wrote: post #61
mschuetz wrote: post #45

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I've been switching to Firefox for private use a year ago, but overall I find it not good. Weird bugs, usability issues, dev tools not that great, etc. And privacy-wise, the defaults don't seem great either. There was something about containers that are supposed to prevent tracking between different domains, but if you actively have to create containers rather than them being automatically applied on each domain, the…

You need the temporary containers plug-in to manage it for you. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con...

This is not something that should require a plugin. Each plugin is an additional source I need to trust.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by beders »

grishka wrote: post #204
andai wrote: post #189

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Some pages don't let you "Reject All" cookies, you have to uncheck them one by one, and there's literally hundreds of ad networks listed. It's spooky, I tell ya!

Use your browser settings to block third-party cookies altogether. And, better yet, install uBlock Origin and never see an ad again.

Please don't. Unless you are willing to pay for the services you are using for free now, ads is what keeps them "free".

You can object to being targeted based on your browsing habits, but don't stop ads altogether.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by jsilence »

megablast wrote: post #344
zxexz wrote: post #236

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You might be surprised how many of us under-35s still have to use Fax machines on a regular basis ;)

> You might be surprised This is such a meaningless statement.

This below 35 yr old discovered a fax machine. You won't believe what happened next!

Better?

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by ihsw »

beders wrote: post #363
grishka wrote: post #204

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Use your browser settings to block third-party cookies altogether. And, better yet, install uBlock Origin and never see an ad again.

Please don't. Unless you are willing to pay for the services you are using for free now, ads is what keeps them "free". You can object to being targeted based on your browsing habits, but don't stop ads altogether.

Ad networks had their chance, it's done now.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by upofadown »

ogre_codes wrote: post #291
foepys wrote: post #164

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Nobody would accept interconnected face scanners in every building they walk into but online it's somehow okay.

> Nobody would accept interconnected face scanners in every building they walk into but online it's somehow okay. There are cars with license plate scanners that wardrive the world. They scan plates in shopping centers, businesses, and even apartment buildings so on the off chance law enforcement, repo businesses, or anyone who wants to know where your car is parked can track you. People accept that. Or rather, most…

People accept that in the USA. Privacy laws in most countries make the free interchange of such information illegal

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by bityard »

dyingkneepad wrote: post #309
mstade wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how many people reading this comment are thinking, "what's a fax machine?" :o) I like the analogy, but I wonder how effective it is on anyone under the age of what, 35?

I had to use a Fax machine in 2018. In the United States. As the only acceptable way to submit certain documents. I should also point to non-Unitedstatians that checks (that physical paper worth as much money as you write and sign on it) are still in use in the USA.

I still use checks because in the US there are certain things you can't use a credit card for, e.g. loan payments.

I pay contractors with checks because almost none accept credit cards and cash gets cumbersome once you start getting into 4 and 5 digits.

My local utilities all charge a "convenience fee" of a few dollars when paying online or with a credit card. Sending a check in the mail costs me only $0.50. (Even though it costs them some employee's wages to handle my envelope and cash the check. Go figure.)

Checks are also convenient for transferring small amounts of money to friends and family. Yes, there is Paypal and the like and some of them don't even charge fees but I trust my bank way more than I trust a random company with direct access to my bank account. (Paypal in particular have proven over and over again to be untrustworthy in this regard, which is why not only do I have two Paypal accounts--one for buying and one for selling--but I also have a special "firewall" account between PayPal and my main checking account. This is so that the most they can grab is a couple hundred dollars on average, rather than some arbitrary fraction of my life's savings.)

Checks are sometimes the easiest (or only) way to move large amounts of money between my own accounts. There was a time where most online bank accounts would let you make ACH ("electronic checks") transfers to any other account, but they seem to be moving away from this, I presume due to its high use in fraud.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by Justsignedup »

grishka wrote: post #204
andai wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some pages don't let you "Reject All" cookies, you have to uncheck them one by one, and there's literally hundreds of ad networks listed. It's spooky, I tell ya!

Use your browser settings to block third-party cookies altogether. And, better yet, install uBlock Origin and never see an ad again.

this. this is the way i solve this. They can use all the cookies they want, ublock tends to just eliminate all of it.

Overall FF has been incredibly user friendly making all sort of plugins that focus on privacy possible, while Chrome has been as hostile to it as possible.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by SamuelAdams »

newscracker wrote: post #91

Use uBlock Origin, Multi Account Containers, Privacy Badger, Decentraleyes and CookieAutoDelete with Firefox. Make sure you aggressively clear cache, cookies, etc., periodically (with CookieAutoDelete). You’ll probably load the web servers more and also add more traffic on your network, but it will help protect your privacy since most websites don’t care about that. When websites are user hostile, you have to take pr…

Or enable private browsing all the time. You'll have to log into your accounts every time you open your browser, but that's not really a big deal with a decent password manager.

[1]: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-clear-firefox-cache...

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

scotu wrote: post #302
AndrewUnmuted wrote: post #240

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There is no such thing as an ethical ad. Advertising is a cynical deployment of our knowledge of crowd wisdom, media manipulation, and statistics to make people part with their money for things they wouldn't think they needed. Our economy can't handle this kind of reckless consumerism anymore. Worse yet, we don't need advertising to bolster our media. Unfortunately, the media execs don't realize this yet. All your me…

there is no such a thing as an ethical comment. Comments are a cynical deployment of our knowledge of crowd wisdom, media manipulation, and statistics to make people part with their opinions for others they wouldn't think they agree with. -- Sorry, there is such a think as "more" ethical ads. If you want to be pedantic and argue they should use "more" suit yourself. But things are not black and white, your comment is…

I'm not trying to manipulate anyone. I'm voicing my opinion. I don't buy anything from advertisements. Period. When I need something, I shop for it. And if you think I'm alone, you're kidding yourself.
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