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Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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I wonder how many people reading this comment are thinking, "what's a fax machine?" :o) I like the analogy, but I wonder how effective it is on anyone under the age of what, 35?

My bank still accepts fax documents. All I would have to do is find a fax machine ...

Try this online fax service: https://www.faxrocket.com/#!/start

I have bookmarked them from long ago.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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We're trying to build an ad network that doesn't track users: https://www.ethicalads.io/ We talked a little bit about how these ads still work, even without tracking you. You might be losing 10-15% of revenue, but if you never had that revenue to start with, you don't miss it: https://www.ethicalads.io/blog/2018/04/ethical-advertising-w... I think the real secret is just to not become dependent on the additive revenu…

There is no such thing as an ethical ad. Advertising is a cynical deployment of our knowledge of crowd wisdom, media manipulation, and statistics to make people part with their money for things they wouldn't think they needed. Our economy can't handle this kind of reckless consumerism anymore. Worse yet, we don't need advertising to bolster our media. Unfortunately, the media execs don't realize this yet. All your me…

there is no such a thing as an ethical comment.

Comments are a cynical deployment of our knowledge of crowd wisdom, media manipulation, and statistics to make people part with their opinions for others they wouldn't think they agree with.

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Sorry, there is such a think as "more" ethical ads. If you want to be pedantic and argue they should use "more" suit yourself. But things are not black and white, your comment is in itself "manipulating" the reader trying to convince them that ads are all the same and that they cannot be put on an ehtical spectrum which is not true: tracking ads vs billboard, I'd much rather a billboard (which I hate in and on itself as they are usually just making the place they are in uglier).

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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These advertising networks are destroying web performance. Most of these "Supercookies" are optimizations to improve performance. By abusing them, advertisers have turned what should be a great performance tool into a liability. I know FF suggests this won't significantly affect most websites performance, but web advertising and trackers are already responsible for a huge chunk of performance issues already. Of cours…

I run a network ad-block dns (pihole) and consistently 25-33% of all my network traffic is blocked as ads. It's much more than I ever imagined. Now I'm used to a different internet, when I'm using internet off the network it's like WTF is this?

Noticed that some apps on iOS spammed the DNS server if they couldn't connect to their ad networks which should affect battery negatively.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Wait does that mean hsts cache is per origin? That seems like it would make tls stripping attacks a lot easier.

Maybe. But a more clever approach might be to limit the size of the HSTS cache per second-level-domin per orign. Or to randomly respect the cache. Or to simply make every request to both the TLS and non-TLS port but do so in parallel and discard the non-TLS response if the domain was in the HSTS cache.

I'm not saying any of those approaches is bulletproof, just that maybe they have a more complex strategy in mind to mitigate risk.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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I just have a decent set of ad blockers and the experience is similar. Unfortunately, it often results in weird experiences or I get sites which don't work at all if you have ad blocking.

Well that's interesting. For me 99.5% of websites work perfectly using ublock origin. The only .5% remaining are websites that actively refuse to serve any kind of adblock users, not because it breaks functionality on their site. I don't think I can recall having visited a single website that would have features break unintentionally because of ublock in the past few years.

The Denver Post just lost my business over this. They have one of those things that scrambles all the words for any user with the audacity to not want to see video+audio ads while reading their newspaper.

Is it their content to do what they want with? Sure.

Does the same logic apply to the $9 I used to give them each month? You're damn right.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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LocalCDN is an extension I would recommend, both for privacy and performance reasons. https://www.localcdn.org/

Decentraleyes is what I use. I assume they're similar https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/decentraleyes...

LocalCDN is an updated fork of Decentraleyes.

Decentraleyes hasn't been updated in ages, has few assets and its assets are massively out of date.

https://git.synz.io/Synzvato/decentraleyes/-/tree/master/res...

vs

https://codeberg.org/nobody/LocalCDN/src/branch/main/resourc...

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Modern ad networks are essentially the “fax machine flyers” of old: someone you don’t know using your resources and your time, denying you use of your own resources temporarily, to send you something you don’t want. Except now it’s like every “normal” fax page includes 15,000 flyers.

I wonder how many people reading this comment are thinking, "what's a fax machine?" :o) I like the analogy, but I wonder how effective it is on anyone under the age of what, 35?

I had to use a Fax machine in 2018. In the United States. As the only acceptable way to submit certain documents.

I should also point to non-Unitedstatians that checks (that physical paper worth as much money as you write and sign on it) are still in use in the USA.

Re: Firefox 85 cracks down on supercookies

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Tracking has become so bad that it seems like users have to spend money (more bandwidth) to protect themselves from it. Crazy and sad to see where we've come :\

Nobody would accept interconnected face scanners in every building they walk into but online it's somehow okay.

Maybe not yet, but neither did we arrive at the current state where e.g. London has an estimated 691k registered CCTV cameras [0] (and many hundreds of thousands more unregistered, as you don't need to register ones that point only at your own property) in a day. Note that a lot of those are already interconnected and linked to recognition systems: TfL and various borough council cameras in particular as part of anti-"serious crime" initiative are an example [1].

Private exercise of the same technology is merely deterred, but not stopped by GDPR (especially now that UK is "happily gone" from "EU overregulation"...).

And of course that ignores China which has cities that have both more total(Beijing, Shanghai) and more per-kilopop (Taiyuan, Wuxi) cameras than London.

[0] https://www.cctv.co.uk/how-many-cctv-cameras-are-there-in-lo... [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/24/business/london-police-fa...

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