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Re: Ex-Google engineers debut 'Cuil' way to search

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At least Cuil has some respect for privacy: "We do not keep logs of our users’ search activity." "We analyze the Web, not our users. Read our Privacy Policy for details. It’s short." http://www.cuil.com/info/privacy/

But Jo(e) User doesn't really care about that, he or she cares about search results. If (and admittedly this is unproven) Google can deliver better search results by logging and analyzing search activity to personalize results, then Cuil is already at a disadvantage.

How can you call it unproven? When I google for Python I get stuff related to programming because of my search history, when a zoologist looks for Pythons he'll see stuff related to snakes.

Re: Ex-Google engineers debut 'Cuil' way to search

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That's very worrying. Adverts people might be interested in shown to them? Cause for concern...

You're probably intentionally missing the point -- but what I was referring to is the fact that they are quite unashamed about retaining data about me.

"The browser with this cookie, did these searches previously"

I don't think this is worrying. If they start using personal data they hold, sure, but this is just creating a personalized experience. Lots of sites do it. If you don't like them doing it, disable cookies for them...

Re: Ex-Google engineers debut 'Cuil' way to search

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I cant get the result for my newly registered domain name on cuil whereas I can see the result on google. Also no blogspot/googlepages result for your query.

I found the result page lot different compared to google UI. Its paradigm shift and difficult to comprehend. Our brain and eyes are used to google search result look and feel.

Re: Ex-Google engineers debut 'Cuil' way to search

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So how are they planning to monetize this? AdSense?

So far they're vague on this. Ironically Cuil was useless, http://www.cuil.com/search?q=cuil%20money&sl=long http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cuil+money&btnG...

but with google I found this:

"Eventually, Cuil plans to make money by running ads alongside search results, she said, but provided no further details."

The design is nice and the layout/features seem promising, though. Pleasant to use when it works.

Re: Ex-Google engineers debut 'Cuil' way to search

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Three major problems that I see right off the bat:

1.) Quality of Search-- In order to be successful, the quality of their search must be at least as good as Google (obviously it much more helpful if it's better). As many have noted, this clearly is not the case right now, and slightly complex queries such as "Linux search and remove multiple files" return zero results.

2.) Revenue Stream-- As noted above, it is going to be difficult for Cuil to break into the search market because they have to achieve such a high quality of search. But even if they are successful breaking into the market, how are they going to generate revenue? An Adsense like program? That's just another thing that they would have to do better then Google, and I just don't see both things happening.

3.) Overcoming Inertia-- Even if Cuil addresses 1 and 2, the moment of inertia of an average Google user is very high. Google has the best web mail available on the market, and along with all the other services Google provides, people will be reluctant to switch their searching to Cuil because everything else that they do will still be through Google.

I don't mean to be negative, and more power to these guys for taking on an area of the web that most people are afraid to even look at. But I guess I would say that if I were to plan a startup, I would probably pick a more advantageous slice of the market (probably one that doesn't exist at the time of planning). At the same time, you have to play your strengths as a programmer, and it seems like thats what the Cuil team is doing.

Re: Ex-Google engineers debut 'Cuil' way to search

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I think google is more 'spellable' than cuil... or is it ciul or coul or ceul. Hell, the title for the post spells it with 2 'l's

That is pretty ironic considering that google is actually a misspelling -- the correct spelling is "googol".

Of course. But googol isn't the 'expected/intuitive' spelling.

Re: Ex-Google engineers debut 'Cuil' way to search

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Interesting. I ran a few keywords through and ...

with http://www.cuil.com/search?q=hacker+news we get an url to this site, good.

with http://www.cuil.com/search?q=hackernews we get a link to pretty what I've put up: eg: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bootload/2710119622/

with http://www.cuil.com/search?q=cuil you get no mention of the site itself.

with http://www.cuil.com/search?q=spock you get a peek of how they cuil are structuring more complex searches using drop down menus - bad because it's slower to read & requires a conscious effort to do so.

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