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Bitcoin Core Lead Maintainer Steps Back, Encourages Decentralization

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Re: Bitcoin Core Lead Maintainer Steps Back, Encourages Decentralization

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I was wondering if these developers have any ethical concerns about the environmental impact they are responsible for by developing a technology which I can categorize with a single world: ABSURDITY!

There is no such thing as unethical technology.

We are talking about the ethical concerns of the people behind the technology. Do not try to misinterpret the words.

Re: Bitcoin Core Lead Maintainer Steps Back, Encourages Decentralization

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bitcoin appears to have just become another asset that rich people on wall street are hoarding with no real attention or interest in the actual payment mechanism at all. it might as well just be some trading cards being shuffled around.

Which is a shame, as the technology always has been as impressive as claimed. There was for a long while talk of whether or not the blockchain would ultimately be adopted for state currencies going forward but it's not clear that this is even an ideal use case. As an example, I would personally view it as a good thing (and I know others have different views on this) that the government for tax and law enforcement pur…

I would argue that claims about the revolutionary potential of blockchain as a technology have been largely exaggerated, but I agree that it's hard to imagine it replacing the financial system in its current state. It just doesn't seem like it could possibly scale to the number of transactions which have to be made globally every second. That's not to say there aren't technical solutions to some of these problems, but currently it seems like even if less than 1% of the population tried to start using bitcoin as their only currency, the system would collapse under its own weight.

I actually think it might be interesting for something like voting. Here having a completely public, verifiable record would add a lot to what is currently a very opaque system in a lot of places.

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I don’t understand Bitcoin. If I make bread and you grow potatoes, we can barter, but it’s much easier to use some intermediary to track the value that we exchanged. The intermediary facilitates this with tokens (coins, notes, cards.) Bitcoin seems perverse. It puts all the value in the tokens themselves and at the same time I can’t even use it to buy bread or potatoes. About the only thing I hear that you can buy wi…

Read Debt by Graeber so you can stop believing in the myth of barter. Then think again.

Re: Bitcoin Core Lead Maintainer Steps Back, Encourages Decentralization

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I don’t understand Bitcoin. If I make bread and you grow potatoes, we can barter, but it’s much easier to use some intermediary to track the value that we exchanged. The intermediary facilitates this with tokens (coins, notes, cards.) Bitcoin seems perverse. It puts all the value in the tokens themselves and at the same time I can’t even use it to buy bread or potatoes. About the only thing I hear that you can buy wi…

i think it is an intermediate step before direct data-assisted barter.

now that we have databases, the number values will slowly become less relevant, and direct information references will come into play.

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#45
post #37

I cannot recommend enough for everyone who has a minimal sensibility towards the climate impact to read this thread: https://twitter.com/smdiehl/status/1350869944888664064 . Since we are inevitable heading over to a climate catastrophe it's really the time to advocate against bitcoin.

#truth

It’s also a good time to explore the tether bubble: https://link.medium.com/Wsf1ZmBT7cb

Re: Bitcoin Core Lead Maintainer Steps Back, Encourages Decentralization

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bitcoin appears to have just become another asset that rich people on wall street are hoarding with no real attention or interest in the actual payment mechanism at all. it might as well just be some trading cards being shuffled around.

The dream of using bitcoin as p2p digital cash does seem to be dead for now, the fees are too high for that[1]. Lightning hasn't really taken off for that use case either, the number of bitcoins in Lightning channels appears to have stopped growing.[2]

But it looks like bitcoin can still be very useful as an alternative settlement layer for international payments. Either directly for large payments, or under the hood for something like Strike[3].

[1] https://ycharts.com/indicators/bitcoin_average_transaction_f...

[2] https://bitcoinvisuals.com/ln-capacity

[3] https://jimmymow.medium.com/announcing-strike-global-2392b90...

Re: Bitcoin Core Lead Maintainer Steps Back, Encourages Decentralization

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even that is an extremely charitable interpretation. From what I can tell, Bitcoin seems largely to be an engine for fraud: fake value is injected into the system via dollar-pegged tokens like Tether, retail "investors" pile in to chase rising asset prices, and then the bottom drops out, amidst "liquidity issues" at major exchanges which prevent people from pulling out at the top. Or at least that is what happened in…

PayPal will be supporting BTC payments soon. BlackRock just announced providing exposure to BTC in some of their funds very soon.

Again, there are some institutional investors dabbling in this, but I would like to see evidence that this is more than a rounding error in terms of Bitcoin's total market cap.

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably still less wasteful than the system it is replacing. Tanks / Fighter jets / drones take more resources.

What do you think is protecting the electricity fuels it depends on?

no need to make up reasons to drone or invade a nation if they decide that your money is not worth using or keeping reserves in to settle debt.

Re: Bitcoin Core Lead Maintainer Steps Back, Encourages Decentralization

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I don’t understand Bitcoin. If I make bread and you grow potatoes, we can barter, but it’s much easier to use some intermediary to track the value that we exchanged. The intermediary facilitates this with tokens (coins, notes, cards.) Bitcoin seems perverse. It puts all the value in the tokens themselves and at the same time I can’t even use it to buy bread or potatoes. About the only thing I hear that you can buy wi…

Read Debt by Graeber so you can stop believing in the myth of barter. Then think again.

i don,t think it is a myth, i do it all the time, living almost entirely without currency.

digital technology only makes barter more easy and accessible.

converting every trade into numbers and back is an outmoded method, which i think will become less used with time.

Re: Bitcoin Core Lead Maintainer Steps Back, Encourages Decentralization

#50
post #37

I cannot recommend enough for everyone who has a minimal sensibility towards the climate impact to read this thread: https://twitter.com/smdiehl/status/1350869944888664064 . Since we are inevitable heading over to a climate catastrophe it's really the time to advocate against bitcoin.

This thread does not answer the predominant usage of waste electricity by Bitcoin miners. Can't take it seriously without any mention of that. Bitcoin is mined where it makes profit, and you can't make any profit without using waste electricity. Today's mining hardware is smart enough to turn off when the powerplant signals there is too much demand and no waste (thus increased prices), and turn back on when convenient.
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